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Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:23 pm
by Fender
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:this so-called increased competition has existed since the 80's and the education system has gotten worse not better
Not anywhere I'm aware of. Ohio certainly doesn't have any voucher programs. One thing that baffles me is that the Ohio Supreme Court ruled that our method of school funding, property taxes, was unconstitutional and must be changed years ago. Nothing has changed. The entire system is fucked. Let's just start over.

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:31 pm
by duffman91
Nightshade wrote:
Denz wrote:That's pretty funny, but you have to think are, "Are they really answering the questions we are hearing?" (dub the questions in the studio to make it funny) Because that can't be right, People can't be that stupid. Plus if you read the text on the bottom, you know this site is a hoax.
FFS, yes, people are that damn dumb. Jay Leno does the same thing on a regular basis.
That's done through editing. My girlfriend has worked the Jay Leno show before.

There isn't much weight you can put on these kinds of videos. Recall that the Colbert Report had a senator say he likes hookers and blow. :icon27:

Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:39 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Fender wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:this so-called increased competition has existed since the 80's and the education system has gotten worse not better
Not anywhere I'm aware of. Ohio certainly doesn't have any voucher programs. One thing that baffles me is that the Ohio Supreme Court ruled that our method of school funding, property taxes, was unconstitutional and must be changed years ago. Nothing has changed. The entire system is fucked. Let's just start over.
Do you get a tax credit if you send your child to a private school?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:55 am
by Fender
I'm not sure. Not relevant yet. She's only 1.5 yo now. Although we are trying to decide where we want to move in the next couple of years and make the decision on "good" public school or private school. I was a handful in school and bored. We're pretty sure she's smart and she's VERY active so I'm not sure her getting lost in a class of 30 is what I want for her.

Honestly, I'd rather there were NO such thing as tax credits and our overall tax burden was simply lower. For anything. Eduction, retirement, health care, whatever. It is simply social engineering and I don't like that. Just give me my money back and let ME decide what to do with it rather than take it, then give a little back if the gov't decides it is an activity that deserves a tax credit.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:33 am
by I cant spell u
Today, my math teacher said that if we didn't understand what we were doing, then we should give up....


Also, my english teacher is a push-over and the other students do nothing but converse, so it's hard to concentrate in that class..

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:34 am
by Captain
I cant spell u wrote:Today, my math teacher said that if we didn't understand what we were doing, then we should give up....
Could've been Geoof posing.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:14 am
by Scourge
Dukester wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:question for Americans.

What were you taught about Vietnam in high school?
Nothing. I graduated in 1980, it wasn't old enough to be history yet :)
Same, but I would have graduated a few years later.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:24 am
by LawL
Would have, could have, should have... but didn't.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:36 am
by Scourge
Law wrote:Would have, could have, should have... but didn't.
Aww, look at the little troll.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:40 am
by LawL
Who's trolling? You're just always going on about how you're so smart and you could have easily graduated with flying colours, and making reference to graduation. But who cares? The fact is you didn't, and your statement means shit.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:43 am
by Scourge
Law wrote:Who's trolling? You're just always going on about how you're so smart and you could have easily graduated with flying colours, and making reference to graduation. But who cares? The fact is you didn't, and your statement means shit.
I've maybe mentioned it a couple times, but you seem to be the one getting upset by it.

edit: Go ahead, look up those post quotes. :icon26:

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:51 am
by LawL
I couldn't be bothered looking them up. I just find your retarded statements about graduation amusing.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:52 am
by Scourge
That's nice.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:55 am
by LawL
Yeah i know. By the way, did you know I could win a gold medal in the olympics if I trained?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:56 am
by Scourge
Possibly.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:57 am
by LawL
:icon14:

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:58 am
by Scourge
Are we done now?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 4:00 am
by LawL
Depends if you keep posting.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:46 am
by reefsurfer
Those videos are scary... :paranoid:
But, its nothing new.. we all knew this.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:47 am
by Ryoki
I've heard Sweden is entirely idiot free, that true?

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:54 am
by Ryoki
On a sidenote - i'm extremely sceptic of things like privatising the educational system, the whole competetive making of the teacher industry etc. The obvious result is an increase in the divide of rich and poor, poor people won't be able to afford proper schooling.

Putting money into some sort of control mechanism to ensure a minimum level of quality is the better option, imo.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 11:55 am
by reefsurfer
Ryoki wrote:I've heard Sweden is entirely idiot free, that true?
Nope.. but we got very good education and its free.
But you cant compare sweden's population against U.S population.. 300 million people vs 9 million, either way you look at it.. U.S will have more dumb people.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:00 pm
by Ryoki
There's this thing called relativity - you should apply it often in life. It allows you to do wonderful things, like compare sweden's population against the US population.

It works with these things: %

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:09 pm
by Nightshade
beefjerker fails to factor in his towering stupidity and the effect in has on Swedish national idiocy rates.

Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:11 pm
by MKJ
'towering' :smirk: