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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:19 am
by Dr_Watson
mjrpes wrote:I tried to Vista Update Adviser. I ran it twice and it crashed my system, forcing me to hard boot. I will interpret that as a 'no'.
Beyond that, XP suites me just fine. I remember back when XP came out and I was running Win98, the difference was like night and day when it came down to stability and speed. It truly was (coming from Win98, not Win2000) a good upgrade.
So I'll be sticking with XP until I'm forced to upgrade.
was a bit more ambiguous coming from 2000.
i held off on xp until i got a hyperthreaded processor, which forced me to upgrade since xp was the only OS supporting logical processors.
my lady's pc however is still running 2000, and has had no problems for ~5 years.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:26 am
by Grudge
Geebs wrote:booker wrote:$399 for Vista Ultimate? WTF? OS X is only $130.
And, if you felt like it, you could install that on as many computers as you like

The thing is, you can't buy a Mac without OS X.
Plus, there will probably be no replacement for Vista for 3-5 years, while OS X is updated every year, so the cost over the same period is 3 or 5x $130.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:09 am
by Doombrain
it's funny to see you people saying you're not going to upgrade when you all know you'll have to ina year or so.
it's not that bad, as will any rollout there's a few details to sort but on a whole it's OK. just, a little to busy at times...
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:13 am
by Chupacabra
mjrpes wrote:I tried to Vista Update Adviser. I ran it twice and it crashed my system, forcing me to hard boot. I will interpret that as a 'no'.
Beyond that, XP suites me just fine. I remember back when XP came out and I was running Win98, the difference was like night and day when it came down to stability and speed. It truly was (coming from Win98, not Win2000) a good upgrade.
So I'll be sticking with XP until I'm forced to upgrade.
i definitely saw the jump going from Windows ME to XP :icon32:
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:31 am
by duffman91
I probably won't jump ship until my work does as well. I've played around with RC1 and RC2, I wasn't really impressed.
I suppose only time will tell how it'll do in the enterprise.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:40 am
by feedback
The day I have to upgrade from XP to get anything to "work" is the day I go back to macs. FULL STOP MATE
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:27 am
by Yeando
The only thing I found which was good was how it picked up and allowed the 360 access without me doing anything. Bit of a pain in the arse with XP to set up.
Future link up gaming should be quite promising.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:34 am
by MKJ
Yeando wrote:Bit of a pain in the arse with XP to set up.
what?
install Connect, turn on 360, find computer. that be it.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:02 am
by Yeando
Yeah that was the bit :icon32:
Bit of a twat though you cant use WMC when Media Player 11 is taking over the PC.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:49 am
by GONNAFISTYA
Apparently....Microsoft has a "free sample" of Vista that runs in a browser.
Clicky
The reason for the free trial? Shitloads of non-genuine Windows copies floating around.
Acknowledging that potential customers may be tempted to "try the new products first before they make the decision to buy" through the use of pirated software, Microsoft has posted an online "test drive" of Windows Vista, which joins an existing Web-based preview of Office 2007.
The Vista test drive, which requires Internet Explorer 6 or 7 and runs the operating system in a small Active X based virtual machine, lets visitors explore various new features of the forthcoming operating system, and guides them through common tasks. Meanwhile, a 60-day trial download of Office 2007 is also available.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:54 am
by Dr_Watson
of course it uses ActiveX
why make a trial of your operating system platform or browser independant... that would be silly.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:27 pm
by Doombrain
i'm likin it more and more
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 1:47 pm
by Massive Quasars
Do all Apple laptops run slower on Windows compared to OS X? One would assume they do.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:09 pm
by Doombrain
to be fair vista seems to be running faster then 10.4
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:07 pm
by werldhed
Massive Quasars wrote:Do all Apple laptops run slower on Windows compared to OS X? One would assume they do.
It seems to me that XP actually runs faster on mine than OS X; but I use XP a lot more, so it's difficult to make a real assessment.

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 6:54 pm
by Tormentius
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:Tormentius wrote:
You can also make the desktop look like XP...
who in their right mind would want that

Some people will want it to look like XP or 2K simply because they hate change. Personally, I enjoy Aero because it uses some of the horsepower of my video card. I spent money on the card, so why not make use of it.
duffman91 wrote:
I suppose only time will tell how it'll do in the enterprise.
With 1,500 new policies it'll do great...just like 2K and XP both did when they extended the control for centralized administration.
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 7:12 pm
by Foo
Massive Quasars wrote:Do all Apple laptops run slower on Windows compared to OS X? One would assume they do.
The question doesn't make sense. To be pedantic, the operating system runs on the hardware, not vice versa.
But that's an important distinction, because how do you measure the speed of one operating system against another one?
Anyway, for some context: Why would you assume that an apple machine would run XP slowly? The apple PCs that run windows are x86-architecture processors, which means that they're the same as any other Pc that runs windows. Windows is not being emulated or coerced into running on the apple machines... it's running natively at full speed.
In short, no. Apple's machines are well specced for windows XP and run it capably.
Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 9:44 am
by JB
its just childish to cling to the age-old fact that "Macs are bad". Microsoft is on a one-way trip to hell, lined with grey, "stylish", minimalistic apples. Time to face it, PCs need to seriously do something extreme or cut a deal with Apple or something.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:10 am
by Scourge
Got my Vista Business disc today from that Power of Together campaign. Probably install it this weekend.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:21 am
by Fender
My buddy that works @ Diebold says he loves Vista. Did some admin training on dual core laptops w/ 2 GB RAM and it ran like a dream. Of course that was before anti-virus and firewall and all the other shit.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:00 am
by JB
ah, the lifeblood of Windows: Bogging down your system with Anti-Virus software. Alternatively, you can buy a Mac, install Vista on it, then never worry about virusses. Oh wait, its the SYSTEM thats shit, not the computer.
Nevertheless, ive got both Vista and a late Beta of 10.5 and they both run damn fine without a hitch.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:14 am
by MKJ
fun stuff. so Vista has alt-tab like we all come to love, now with mouse support (liks osx has). cool
Also, it has winkey-tab, which is *exactly* the same but in 3d. IM SO HAPPY THEY ADDED THAT !
either replace the old one or ditch the new one. dont add an exact copy of a function and give it a different name, then act like its hot shit

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 9:22 am
by Doombrain
JB wrote:ah, the lifeblood of Windows: Bogging down your system with Anti-Virus software. Alternatively, you can buy a Mac, install Vista on it, then never worry about virusses. Oh wait, its the SYSTEM thats shit, not the computer.
Nevertheless, ive got both Vista and a late Beta of 10.5 and they both run damn fine without a hitch.
a late beta of 10.5

build number please
BTW, vista fucks the battery CPU up on macbook pro.
Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 1:11 pm
by Doombrain
build number you fuckin bullshiter!
i've got mine right here, latest build!

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 2:04 pm
by werldhed
Scourge wrote:Got my Vista Business disc today from that Power of Together campaign. Probably install it this weekend.
Same here. Haven't installed it yet, though. It's going on my desktop, not my macbook. No way I'm wasting my install on that piece of shit.