Progression of gun laws in the US.

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YourGrandpa wrote:Do you think everyone who has a CCW is a nut?
It depends. Are they carrying a loaded weapon for "personal protection" from the big bad world? Then yes, they're nuts. Why aren't you understanding this concept? What in the world makes you think there's any difference whether or not the weapon is concealed if that person is totally paranoid and has it for protection?

It doesn't matter if the gun's in his pocket or under his pillow, a paranoid nut is a paranoid nut. How many times do I need to say this?
YourGrandpa wrote:Do you think everyone with a loaded firearm in their home is a nut?
Sorta. Regardless of how irresponsible and dangerous it is having guns in the house (tons of evidence to prove this) why do they need not only a weapon, but a loaded weapon? Straight off the bat, anyone who has a loaded gun in their house and has kids is automatically the worst parent in the world. So why can't they put their guns away in a safe place and unload them? If their answer is "Because it'll slow them down if they need it during a home invasion" then I'd say,"Yep...they're nuts."

Gramps...in all seriousness, you've asked me these questions before and I've answered them. It's not my fault you don't remember.

And to be clear, I'm starting to believe that this "reasonable" conversation about guns will be soon forgotten by you and you'll start this mess all over again, claiming that I hate Muricuh, I want to ban all guns and, ultimately, you'll convince yourself that we've NEVER HAD a reasonable conversation and then I predict that I'll just flame you and you'll claim that I'm unreasonable, loop ad nauseum.

In short: I'm wondering if I'm wasting my time being reasonable with you, because you are unable to remember what people tell you.
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Dark Metal wrote:Then do you arm teachers, principals, or security in schools?

Wait, start with schools, then theatres, move on to every corner, next require all businesses to have trained armed security.
We both know what the result of that would be, don't we? The gun-nuts will then have their dystopian world and turn to us and say,"See...everybody's packin heat, so I need my gun."

They want a police state so they can complain about a police state.

It's a circular, self-fulfilling form of insanity that never ends.
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YourGrandpa wrote:My reaction to your incredibly empty and biased opinion was completely warranted. Especially since I suggested coupling psychological and instructional testing with education in order to obtain a license. Which you conveniently overlooked or disregarded is your predictable rush to disagree with anything I say. Talk about immature. Fuck off to your next tan session, fag.

You're done here as far as I'm concerned.
I didn't overlook or disregard anything. I simply stated that your ridiculous solution would have no effect, which it wouldn't. You had a childish little tantrum because someone disagreed with you, proving the point that trying to educate gun-nuts like yourself would be a fruitless exercise.
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Dark Metal wrote:Then do you arm teachers, principals, or security in schools?

Wait, start with schools, then theatres, move on to every corner, next require all businesses to have trained armed security.
I think arming anyone who lacks the qualifications or discipline to appropriately act in a situation that requires the use of deadly force is moronic.
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GONNAFISTYA wrote:Gramps...in all seriousness, you've asked me these questions before and I've answered them. It's not my fault you don't remember.

And to be clear, I'm starting to believe that this "reasonable" conversation about guns will be soon forgotten by you and you'll start this mess all over again, claiming that I hate Muricuh, I want to ban all guns and, ultimately, you'll convince yourself that we've NEVER HAD a reasonable conversation and then I predict that I'll just flame you and you'll claim that I'm unreasonable, loop ad nauseum.

In short: I'm wondering if I'm wasting my time being reasonable with you, because you are unable to remember what people tell you.
I'm sorry. I just don't commit these conversations to memory. Though I do appreciate your willingness to participate. My participation is also genuine.

I don't agree with you that everyone with a personal carry firearm has a repressed fear of society. I also don't agree that having a loaded firearm in your home implies paranoia or irresponsibility. We come from very different cultures and I'm sure we will continue to disagree.
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Fair enough.

Since you don't agree that someone carrying a loaded weapon on their person at all times has a repressed fear of society, why would they need to carry a personal firearm unless they believed they were in imminent danger? If they weren't in imminent danger, then what other reason would there be to carry a personal weapon besides a fear of society?
Since you don't agree that having a loaded firearm in your home implies paranoia, why would you need a loaded firearm in your house unless you believed you were in imminent danger? If you weren't in imminent danger, then what other reason would there be to need a loaded firearm in your house besides paranoia?

Thinking that you are in potential danger from others or believing firmly to be in imminent danger from others when there is no evidence of imminent danger is the very definition of paranoia.
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After the meeting with Joe Biden, the NRA made it clear that they are opposed to a federal gov't study on gun violence. WTF?? This is not a new position but gimme a break.
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Yawn.

Always the same three fucktards arguing about shit they have no control over.
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lol fuck off wankbus.
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Don't make me fly over to Oz and punch-fist you again Bawl. You little pussy gay-lord.

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seremtan wrote:did anyone see the piers moron vs alex jones exchange? even though jones is a tinfoil loon (and sounded every bit of it during the exchange) i'd still back him against that slimy fucktard morgan just on general principle
1st I heard of it, only watched the 1st part but so far Piers hasn't had the opportunity to be a slimy fucktard, Alex Jones on the other hand I thought would have been a little less animated outside his little circle and completely owned himself.

Everything someone can mention to lose and end an argument was mentioned by him. "1776 WILL COME AGAIN", "Grannies being mugged on every street corner in Britain", Hitler crops up then onto personnel attacks like telling Piers to come home :(, to face daily mail charges that he's hiding from :olo:. Guy couldn't even follow his own arguements without resorting to something he shouts out everyday.

Alex made himself so mad he dedicated an article to him a day or 2 later - http://www.infowars.com/was-piers-morga ... ournalism/

Pot > kettle

edit: Ends with calling him a red coat and mocking him with a Brit accent I think :smirk:, sounds like he's had a bit of an agenda against Piers so his article isn't much of a surprise anymore :smirk:
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sounded like he was on a ton of PCP.
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Possible, I'm not entirely sure he knew why he was there. Only mentioned guns in little 'factoids' which is what he kept accusing Piers of then started ranting about stuff like prozac, vaccines and 9/11 (surprise). When he tried getting him back on topic he gave it the "oh getting too close to the truth now, stuff we can't discuss, are they your sponsors !?".

Sad thing is, not only is their people supporting him simply because of his stance but I'm sure there's a few people about that think he done himself and his little clan proud by winning the day with the 'truth'
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mancubus wrote:Don't make me fly over to Oz and punch-fist you again Bawl. You little pussy gay-lord.

Right goodnight ya bellends!
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YourGrandpa wrote:1. I don't think banning assault rifles is a fix. There are a great deal of statistics that have shown that simply banning them didn't work.
Could you kindly provide any of those statistics? If so, could you explain why it did work in other counties that have banned assault rifles (such as Australia)?
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who cares if it works...assault weapons should only be available to armies...period...

so gay when ppl say they need guns to protect themselves from the govt...the govt has nukes, drones and ac130's etc...ur outgunned bitches...
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scared? wrote:so gay when ppl say they need guns to protect themselves from the govt...the govt has nukes, drones and ac130's etc...ur outgunned bitches...
lol, this is true. Very to the point way of putting it too :smirk:
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Gun show participants wounded as weapons go off accidentally

Five people were wounded when firearms accidentally went off at gun shows across the United States on Saturday.

The incidents coincided with a day of nation-wide rallies by gun rights advocates who say the right to own firearms is under attack from President Barack Obama’s proposals to reduce gun violence.

In North Carolina, three people including a retired sheriff’s deputy were wounded at a gun show in Raleigh when a 12-gauge shotgun accidentally went off as its owner was taking it out of its case, state officials said.

Gary Lynn Wilson, 36, who was bringing his shotgun to the Dixie Gun and Knife Show hoping to sell it privately, approached the entrance to have it inspected. It went off as he removed it from its case, according to a statement by the state Department of Agriculture, a host of the gun show.

Three patrons were hit with birdshot: a man, a woman and a retired Wake County Sheriff’s deputy who was working at the show. None of the injuries were life-threatening.

In Indianapolis, a 54-year-old man was injured when he accidentally shot himself while leaving the Indy 1500 Gun and Knife show at the state fairgrounds.

Police say Emory Cozee was reloading his .45-calibre semi-automatic when he shot himself in the hand. Loaded personal weapons are not allowed inside the show.

And in nearby Medina, Ohio, a stray bullet at a local gun show left a bystander shot in his arm and leg.

Police Chief Pat Berarducci said a gun dealer was checking out a handgun that he had just bought when he accidentally pulled the trigger. Investigators believe the bullet ricocheted off the floor and struck a man standing nearby.

The wounded man was taken by helicopter to a Cleveland hospital. His condition wasn’t known.

The two incidents coincided with rallies across the country by gun rights advocates who say the right to own firearms is under attack from President Barack Obama’s proposals to reduce gun violence.

Obama is taking action in the wake of the Sandy Hook school massacre last month, when 20-year-old Adam Lanza killed 20 first graders and six adults with an assault rifle in Connecticut — the deadliest of a string of U.S. shooting sprees last year.
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The guns had nothing to do with the accidents amirite.
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Steer clear of them gun shows.
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I do, they're full of gun weirdos.
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No shit.
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None at all.
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