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seremtan wrote:

DRuM wrote:Also, Choudary saying to that girl "if you're non muslim you're destined for hellfire" is just as misguided and ignorant as those westboro baptist church shitstains. He should be kicked out of the country along with abu hamza.

why? if someone came up to you in the street and said "if you don't believe in fairies, you're destined for the dungeons of Mordor" you'd laugh in their face. when people like this guy talk this kind of delusional bollocks, the only proper response should be derisive laughter, not boo-hoo offence-taking. we've got too many laws against free speech in this country without adding to the pile

To be fair I've had Christians shout that at me walking past Newport market. I think he's right though, that Choudary fella prays on weak minded individuals, it's like violent conspiracy theorists that have been lead down the garden path and we know these views are rejected by the wider muslim societies in Britain. In the docu I linked above when they were looking for a mosque to pray in you seen a bunch of Muslims walk off looking as if they thought those guys were nuts.

He's still involved in organisations that get banned by terrorist laws only to be re-labelled to preach the same bullshit, like going bankrupt and opening the new business in your wifes name. Always anti-west themed too. This is kinda why I'm saying this is not about free speech and the laws that should be made but the abuse of freedom of speech. It's bollocks that West Boro baptist church can picket soldiers funerals just as its bollocks that this guy can go up and down the country claiming the 9/11 attacks or the 7/7 bombings a stroke of tactical genius.

He has strong links to militant organisations and has claimed to have trained freedom fighters in the UK. During the Boston bombings I was digging the yanks about looking at the root causes instead of blaming it on misfortune, well I honestly believe that the finger should be pointed firmly at hate mongering cunts like these and is the reason why organisations like Sinn Fein managed to absolve themselves of any crimes by adopting the freedom of speech 'card' and not denying nor confirming their involvment with the IRA. The yanks might have been funding the political branch of the IRA but we were the fucking cunts that allowed the political branch to exist.

More incoherent babbling from the red font guy...does anybody even finish reading a single sentence from this dip shit before getting bored?...

seremtan wrote:

DRuM wrote:Also, Choudary saying to that girl "if you're non muslim you're destined for hellfire" is just as misguided and ignorant as those westboro baptist church shitstains. He should be kicked out of the country along with abu hamza.

why? if someone came up to you in the street and said "if you don't believe in fairies, you're destined for the dungeons of Mordor" you'd laugh in their face. when people like this guy talk this kind of delusional bollocks, the only proper response should be derisive laughter, not boo-hoo offence-taking. we've got too many laws against free speech in this country without adding to the pile

Yeah, I wasn't very clear but I was making reference to my first sentence. That he should be kicked out for indoctrinating hatred of the west to his muppets and encouraging them to slice some heads off.

scared? wrote:More incoherent babbling from the red font guy...does anybody even finish reading a single sentence from this dip shit before getting bored?...

Don't be shy flower, tell me what you really think ?

DRuM wrote:

seremtan wrote:
why? if someone came up to you in the street and said "if you don't believe in fairies, you're destined for the dungeons of Mordor" you'd laugh in their face. when people like this guy talk this kind of delusional bollocks, the only proper response should be derisive laughter, not boo-hoo offence-taking. we've got too many laws against free speech in this country without adding to the pile

Yeah, I wasn't very clear but I was making reference to my first sentence. That he should be kicked out for indoctrinating hatred of the west to his muppets and encouraging them to slice some heads off.

He's from Luton :P

scared? wrote:More incoherent babbling from the red font guy...does anybody even finish reading a single sentence from this dip shit before getting bored?...

nope

Fuck muslims ?

losCHUNK wrote: He's from Luton :P

Bah, very true. Don't know why I thought he'd come to the UK from somewhere else.

losCHUNK wrote:He's still involved in organisations that get banned by terrorist laws only to be re-labelled to preach the same bullshit, like going bankrupt and opening the new business in your wifes name. Always anti-west themed too. This is kinda why I'm saying this is not about free speech and the laws that should be made but the abuse of freedom of speech. It's bollocks that West Boro baptist church can picket soldiers funerals just as its bollocks that this guy can go up and down the country claiming the 9/11 attacks or the 7/7 bombings a stroke of tactical genius.

you don't think that maybe by actively participating in and/or supporting criminal wars of aggression against Muslim countries, or rendition, or drone strikes that kill loads of kids, we might actually be doing a better job of selling the idea of jihad than any raging imam? if England were to suddenly send the military in to occupy Wales, kidnapping Welsh people and taking them to be tortured, or firing Hellfire missiles into downtown Newport at rush hour, then lying about the whole thing to an ignorant, dick-sucking corporate media, how would you react?

i was just watching a talk that Jeremy Scahill (author of Dirty Wars) was giving, in which he mentioned a village in Yemen where the-nebulous-group-of-like-minded-idiots-generally-referred-to-as-"al-Qaeda" came knocking one day, trying to get people interested in jihad against the Great Satan America. no one was interested. then one day the village was flattened by a drone strike. the next day, they were interested

(p.s. for the purposes of this debate, i'm going to assume people on this board aren't so stupid as to confuse 'analysis of cause' with 'justification')

Aye. I argued the same in the Boston bombs thread, just in this case we can see a source of radicalisation if you decrease the scope. That dude that went hacking at peoples heads was radicalised by sects in our country that try to help the terrorists we were fighting. That dude was ranting nonsense in the clip n all, being Nigerian descent and a British immigrant I'm willing to bet our government has done nothing to harm him, his family nor countrymen what so ever. So where did he learn this bollocks he was shouting, about his women witnessing beheadings in the street ?. I don't doubt that but is that our fault ?. He was a practicing Catholic up to University.

Back to the wider world then you can completely understand how pissed off they are. We have pulled out these countries though in the blind hope democracy will flourish no ?, are we droning pakis ?, we've sided with palestine in a vote that went against our closest allies, public opinion on both wars was always shit and only entered when international opinion favoured it maybe ?. I'm guessing I'm missing out loads of British intervention that lead back generations but in comparison France, China or Russia can be considered more oppressive to islamists don't you think ?.

When enforcing the no fly zone in Libya with American help the evil terrorists turned a load of their population against us, so we can't win either way anymore anyway . Britain is now fighting a propaganda war with a religion and cuntbags like Choudray are the face of it.

French soldier stabbed in neck in Paris
http://news.sky.com/story/1095605/frenc ... k-in-paris

This won't well

oh here we go. suddenly every nutjob wants their 15 minutes of fame

I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM

Plan B wrote:I CAN'T EMPHASIZE ENOUGH HOW NONE OF THIS HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM

O'Reilly went on The Daily Show and for the first time, he was completely right. He called Jon on his PC fact-dodging and Jon made my jaw drop when he said the solution was to teach people about Sunnis, Shiites, Salafis and Wahabists... what the fuck.

Great, no need to worry, just learn about the 12 different flavors of muslim terrorism, and everything will be just fine

Feedback is an idiot when it comes to politics...prolly most other things too...

Oh look, the British sequel to the acclaimed Boston Marathon Reality TV show.

feedback wrote:O'Reilly went on The Daily Show and for the first time, he was completely right. He called Jon on his PC fact-dodging and Jon made my jaw drop when he said the solution was to teach people about Sunnis, Shiites, Salafis and Wahabists... what the fuck.

only stupid people need education

scared? wrote:Feedback is an idiot when it comes to politics...prolly most other things too...

Wait for your third paradigm shift, dish-pig. Hopefully it's coming.