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YourGrandpa wrote:

seremtan wrote:so you've never heard of life imprisonment, which counts as a 'viable alternative' in the civilised parts of the world?

Yeah, I'm for life in prison too. But I don't think I or anyone should be forced to pay for it. I mean I'm all for those who want to keep this terrorist alive to build a jail cell on their own property, hire armed guards to watch him 24/7, pay for his maintenance, food, electric, plumbing, medical, etc. for the rest of his life. Otherwise, end him and his burden on society.

However, I find it hard to believe that anyone would offer this guy life in prison if ran up and stabbed your family member in the face right in front of you.

IJS.

I think its true that life imprisonment is probably worse than death, that said, Like Scarface I didn't realize how much more the death penalty costs. Maybe we all should do something like in the movie "Escape From New York", find someplace remote, dump them and let them all fend for themselves. Blow them out of the water if they try to escape. That isn't going to happen either, still a shame to spend all that money on them alive or dead

Life in prison at least lets him reflect on what he did and the grief he caused. It also lets society show him why he's wrong.

Killing him solves nothing, it'll just perpetuate the cycle of violence and I'm sure some lunatic will see this as justification for further attacks on innocent people.

If we as a society can't let a disgusting human being like him live in captivity then we're not much better than he is. Besides, how many people are dead as a direct result of Obama?

If the death penalty was worse than life in prison, 99% of criminals wouldn't desperately try anything they could do to get out of it.

as a rule, criminals try to get out of any punishment of any kind for their crimes. people who don't try to duck the costs of their actions tend to be the law-abiding ones

isn't serving your sentence abiding the law though?
/philosoraptor

seremtan wrote:as a rule, criminals try to get out of any punishment of any kind for their crimes. people who don't try to duck the costs of their actions tend to be the law-abiding ones

feedback has a good point though. How many guys serving a life sentence are begging for the death penalty?

There's people in both camps either way. If I was going to spend the next 80 years in jail I might rather be killed too, fuck that.

But it isn't their choice. So what if people on death row want to live? That's not the point. The point is not stooping to their level because that doesn't solve the problem. Who knows, perhaps there might be medical/clinical uses for these people on death row. We might learn from them to avoid similar issues in the future. Yeah it costs us money to keep them alive but if you're really about changing society then that's part of the cost. Those are the prices we pay as free people to evolve society past this petty revenge mind frame that we all cling to when someone has horribly wronged us.

Quake 3 World

Your college level discussion is waiting...

Get the fuck outta here with your pretentious college level bullshit. Like you're any different posting on an online gaming forum, if you expect something else you're in the wrong neighborhood motherfucker.

Seems like I hit a nerve.

You're in the wrong neighborhood mother fucker...

That Kracus guy allways cracks me up.

xer0s wrote:feedback has a good point though. How many guys serving a life sentence are begging for the death penalty?

you tell me

a rhetorical question isn't an argument

I don't have those statistics. It was a serious question. How many?

What's the suicide rate in supermax?

xer0s wrote:I don't have those statistics. It was a serious question. How many?

then fucking google it you lazy cunt. you're the one making the argument

I'm not arguing...

I'll bet its pretty hard to suicide in Super max

MKJ wrote:isn't serving your sentence abiding the law though?
/philosoraptor

no

Nice to see all opinions here both for and against the death penalty. Still reading