Alleged swatting hoax ends in the death of a father of two

[Transient]

The cop who shot Finch chose to be a cop. Putting one's life at risk and exposing oneself to high levels of scrutiny is part of the job. If you're not willing to take the risk, find another job.

Everyone chooses to do their job. No one owes their life. Fuck off

That's not what I said, but by all means, continue to shape reality to fit your narrative.

[YourGrandpa]

A grown man makes a fake call to police. He gives a false address. Then he claims he's at said false address killing people and stays on the phone until authorities arrive. Police arrive and enter the home. Police see perceived suspect in home and instruct him to show his hands, then instruct him to move toward them. (Something happens) The perceived suspect is shot and later dies.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/ ... 29414.html

Do you know what happened between the police officer's commands and his shot? No? Then how can you say the officer did something wrong? It only takes a millisecond of hesitation for an officer to be shot. It's terrible Finch was killed. But if he freaked out and made a quick or threatening move, what was the officer supposed to do? If the officer made a heinous mistake, he should be charged. It's not the officer's or Finches fault they wound up in this situation. The officer isn't a murder and Finch did deserve die. Some fuck stick with an inferiority complex got this man killed. If you're going to be upset at something, be upset at the guy that caused this problem. Let the investigation happen before you start point fingers elsewhere.

[YourGrandpa]

Everyone chooses to do their job. No one owes their life. Fuck off

That's not what I said, but by all means, continue to shape reality to fit your narrative.

That's EXACTLY what you said.

[Transient]

But if he freaked out and made a quick or threatening move, what was the officer supposed to do?

Rubber bullets and stun guns were invented over 40 years ago.

[Doombrain]

The shooter was in cover.

[YourGrandpa]

But if he freaked out and made a quick or threatening move, what was the officer supposed to do?

Rubber bullets and stun guns were invented over 40 years ago.

You don't bring rubber bullets and stun guns to a gun fight, ever.

[Eraser]

Isn't the police supposed to assess the situation on premise before taking action? They made the wrong assessment.

[Doombrain]

Reasoning with gramps is a waste of time, he lives in la la land.

[YourGrandpa]

Isn't the police supposed to assess the situation on premise before taking action? They made the wrong assessment.

Why don't you watch the video and read the story? Then tell me exactly how you know they didn't asses the situation.

The police think they have an armed suspect holding hostages. He is threatening to kill them and burn down the house... You can hear in the video, the police issue two verbal commands loud and clear. How long were they suppose to stand around and scratch their heads before acting? I'll tell you. You don't have a clue.

[Transient]

You don't bring rubber bullets and stun guns to a gun fight, ever.

Not in Americuh you don't. In other countries, it seems to work just fine.

[Doombrain]

Jesus Christ, your very first few words are the problem. Are you really that stupid. THEY MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN.

ASSUMPTION, YOU FUCKING MONG

[SOAPboy]

Jesus Christ, your very first few words are the problem. Are you really that stupid. THEY MADE AN ASSUMPTION THAT KILLED AN INNOCENT MAN.

ASSUMPTION, YOU FUCKING MONG

Hes ducked actually replying to someone (me) who was in law enforcement and also someone (me) who knows the cops from the area this happened in and know how they were trained. Guess what? Training aint great! This shit happens all the fucking time here! Tons of abuse of power.

Hes just arguing to suck cop dick, or be a fucking idiot, Either way hes a dumb cunt who knows jack shit.

Or he really thinks this way like a fuckin hillbilly. Hes an idiot. Clearly.



BTW you fucking idiot. (gramps)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiW-BVPCbZk

This is 3 years old. Swatting isnt fuckin new. Theres dozens and dozens of videos of this shit going down. They fucked up. Hard.

[losCHUNK]

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/ ... 29414.html

Do you know what happened between the police officer's commands and his shot? No? Then how can you say the officer did something wrong? It only takes a millisecond of hesitation for an officer to be shot. It's terrible Finch was killed. But if he freaked out and made a quick or threatening move, what was the officer supposed to do? If the officer made a heinous mistake, he should be charged. It's not the officer's or Finches fault they wound up in this situation. The officer isn't a murder and Finch did deserve die. Some fuck stick with an inferiority complex got this man killed. If you're going to be upset at something, be upset at the guy that caused this problem. Let the investigation happen before you start point fingers elsewhere.

His arms lowered, that's it, I can't see anything about the police entering the home like you mentioned in the bit of your quote I snipped. You can see why some of you lot are scared to get off your bike. The officer seen this as reason enough to shoot and in any sane world that isn't reason enough, there was no threat, just the perceived threat created in the officers mind. This isn't some unfortunate situation that couldnt have been prevented.

What we have here is

>False report
>officers attend
>defendant exits house complying with police requests fully
>defendant lowers his arms
>dead

All this was established early on in this thread

Soldiers in populated war zones aren't allowed to just fire at people without clear and present. Moving your hands up then down isn't, in any fucking first world, a sign of danger. They and get that through your thick fucking skull

U mad post coming in 3... 2... 1...

And DB is absolutely spot on with what he says here, so you now tell me America is worse than a warzone ?

It also says in your link there's over 400 swatting hoax's a year, it's been going on for years. Don't try to pull that shit.

[YourGrandpa]

Hes ducked actually replying to someone (me) who was in law enforcement and also someone (me) who knows the cops from the area this happened in and know how they were trained. Guess what? Training aint great! This shit happens all the fucking time here! Tons of abuse of power.

Hes just arguing to suck cop dick, or be a fucking idiot, Either way hes a dumb cunt who knows jack shit.
Or he really thinks this way like a fuckin hillbilly. Hes an idiot. Clearly.

BTW you fucking idiot. (gramps)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiW-BVPCbZk

This is 3 years old. Swatting isnt fuckin new. Theres dozens and dozens of videos of this shit going down. They fucked up. Hard.

Ducking you? LOL. You're an angry little douche bag who obviously has an ax to grind with law enforcement. Why aren't you still working in corrections? Did someone can your pathetic ass because you were too big of a pussy to work in general pop?

I don't care if you live near there or on the other side of the world. Anything you say is speculation based on a clearly heavy bias.

Eat a dick, putz.

[YourGrandpa]

His arms lowered, that's it, I can't see anything about the police entering the home like you mentioned in the bit of your quote I snipped. You can see why some of you lot are scared to get off your bike. The officer seen this as reason enough to shoot and in any sane world that isn't reason enough, there was no threat, just the perceived threat created in the officers mind. This isn't some unfortunate situation that couldnt have been prevented.

What we have here is

>False report
>officers attend
>defendant exits house complying with police requests fully
>defendant lowers his arms
>dead

All this was established early on in this thread

It also says in your link there's over 400 swatting hoax's a year, it's been going on for years. Don't try to pull that shit.

Why waste your time posting all that nonsense? It's okay to acknowledge you really don't know what happened.

LOL at 400 per year. Like that's some kind of extraordinary number. More people die every year falling out of bed. Talk about pulling shit.

[SOAPboy]

Hes ducked actually replying to someone (me) who was in law enforcement and also someone (me) who knows the cops from the area this happened in and know how they were trained. Guess what? Training aint great! This shit happens all the fucking time here! Tons of abuse of power.

Hes just arguing to suck cop dick, or be a fucking idiot, Either way hes a dumb cunt who knows jack shit.
Or he really thinks this way like a fuckin hillbilly. Hes an idiot. Clearly.

BTW you fucking idiot. (gramps)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiW-BVPCbZk

This is 3 years old. Swatting isnt fuckin new. Theres dozens and dozens of videos of this shit going down. They fucked up. Hard.

Ducking you? LOL. You're an angry little douche bag who obviously has an ax to grind with law enforcement. Why aren't you still working in corrections? Did someone can your pathetic ass because you were too big of a pussy to work in general pop?

I don't care if you live near there or on the other side of the world. Anything you say is speculation based on a clearly heavy bias.

Eat a dick, putz.

No actually I have no axe to grind. I just live in the real world and interact with these people and have first hand exp.

Why am I not still in? Mostly because I didn't want to be what they wanted me to be. Which was a dickhead who "enforced the rules with an iron fist" (Read, They wanted me to treat people who have NOT BEEN CONVICTED OF ANYTHING like they were cold blooded baby murderers who raped children for fun, When in reality these were people with minor drug problems or something). When in reality this was a jail and I had an easy fucking time just treating everyone like people. It pissed them off. I found it funny. I left on my own terms to move out of state for a while so yeah. Wasnt that I couldnt hang in gen pop. lol @ the gen pop joke. Newsflash, Every mod was "gen pop". Medical was the only "safe" area and lul if you wernt dealing with every other mother fucker anyways. You clearly have no idea how the system works and it shows. The what you'd call "gen pop" mods were pretty low key actually. Shit popped off more in intake than anywhere else. Drunk dudes make for hilarious times.

Heavy bias? Maybe. But maybe that bias is build from the law enforcement i regularly interacted with, trained with, and had to deal with WHILE being on that side of the blue line.

Maybe its you who needs to eat a dick, A whole bowl of dicks.

[losCHUNK]

His arms lowered, that's it, I can't see anything about the police entering the home like you mentioned in the bit of your quote I snipped. You can see why some of you lot are scared to get off your bike. The officer seen this as reason enough to shoot and in any sane world that isn't reason enough, there was no threat, just the perceived threat created in the officers mind. This isn't some unfortunate situation that couldnt have been prevented.

What we have here is

>False report
>officers attend
>defendant exits house complying with police requests fully
>defendant lowers his arms
>dead

All this was established early on in this thread

It also says in your link there's over 400 swatting hoax's a year, it's been going on for years. Don't try to pull that shit.

Why waste your time posting all that nonsense? It's okay to acknowledge you really don't know what happened.

LOL at 400 per year. Like that's some kind of extraordinary number. More people die every year falling out of bed. Talk about pulling shit.

Like I said we're basing it on what's available in the public domain, you've even provided a video and coupled with an official police announcement we have the series of events that took place. You're the one with the 'ifs' and 'ors' and can't accept that on the face of it the police are at fault.

I used the 400 number to show it's hardly uncommon n all, if something is happening atleast once a day in 1 country that would suggest a trend that's worth investigating, I mean you have fewer terrorist attacks a year and how many protocols do you have ?, I can't even take water onto a plane. You trying to say its relatively new when in actual fact its been going on for years at quite a common rate. That's what you call pulling shit.

[YourGrandpa]

I was a big pussy who thought I new better than everyone else.

Sounds about right.

[YourGrandpa]

Like I said we're basing it on what's available in the public domain, you've even provided a video and coupled with an official police announcement we have the series of events that took place. You're the one with the 'ifs' and 'ors' and can't accept that on the face of it the police are at fault.

I used the 400 number to show it's hardly uncommon n all, if something is happening atleast once a day in 1 country that would suggest a trend that's worth investigating, I mean you have fewer terrorist attacks a year and how many protocols do you have ?, I can't even take water onto a plane. You trying to say its relatively new when in actual fact its been going on for years at quite a common rate. That's what you call pulling shit.

More useless typing to prove you still don't know what happened after the commands and before the shot...

400 might be a lot in small world you live in. But it's absolutely minuscule in a country of 320+ million. Keep pretending.

[losCHUNK]

Like I said we're basing it on what's available in the public domain, you've even provided a video and coupled with an official police announcement we have the series of events that took place. You're the one with the 'ifs' and 'ors' and can't accept that on the face of it the police are at fault.

I used the 400 number to show it's hardly uncommon n all, if something is happening atleast once a day in 1 country that would suggest a trend that's worth investigating, I mean you have fewer terrorist attacks a year and how many protocols do you have ?, I can't even take water onto a plane. You trying to say its relatively new when in actual fact its been going on for years at quite a common rate. That's what you call pulling shit.

More useless typing to prove you still don't know what happened after the commands and before the shot...

400 might be a lot in small world you live in. But it's absolutely minuscule in a country of 320+ million. Keep pretending.

You don't want to discuss what information is available through official sources and instead rely on the narrative in your head still ?. Why can't you accept that based on the information the police made an error ?, I've laid out the events. Instead you wanna talk about 'if he...' and 'or they...'.

Who's pretending ?, you're trying to say that the police can't deal with a somewhat irregular yet highly publicised and routine occurrence in a sensible way. Over a 5 year period close to 15% of teams would have had experience with this situation n all. Conservative number too, most forces have to few officers to create a team so rely on shared resources.

[SOAPboy]

I was a big pussy who thought I new better than everyone else.

Sounds about right.

You're hopeless.



You also cannot read. Figures as much.

[Scourge]

Watch out, when he runs out of blanks to shoot, he'll latch on to something really stupid. He droned on for quite a while about my shirt. Yeah, he has the comprehension skills of a ping pong ball.

[YourGrandpa]

You don't want to discuss what information is available through official sources and instead rely on the narrative in your head still ?. Why can't you accept that based on the information the police made an error ?, I've laid out the events. Instead you wanna talk about 'if he...' and 'or they...'.

Who's pretending ?, you're trying to say that the police can't deal with a somewhat irregular yet highly publicised and routine occurrence in a sensible way. Over a 5 year period close to 15% of teams would have had experience with this situation n all. Conservative number too, most forces have to few officers to create a team so rely on shared resources.

I've said from the start, if the officer is at fault he should be charged. How'd you miss that? At least I'm willing to wait for an investigation before I start blaming the people who protect and serve. And 400 incidents a year isn't shit. Especially when the majority are identified before they turn into anything because most people are not bright enough to carry out the lie.

[YourGrandpa]

Watch out, when he runs out of blanks to shoot, he'll latch on to something really stupid. He droned on for quite a while about my shirt. Yeah, he has the comprehension skills of a ping pong ball.

Calm down Randy.

[YourGrandpa]

I'm so angry at the world. Please kill me.

Get some help.