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Chemical Burn wrote:

Dr_Watson wrote: but cloves... i like them too much to let them go.

Do you find that cloves are as addictive as regular cigs, or is the scent and taste for you?

when i switched from cigarettes (this also goes for one of my friends and my GF, who both also switched over) there was withdrawl going from camels to cloves.
the switch wasn't smooth.
so, no... i don't think they are as evil.
the physical craving isn't there... i think thats due to the lack of chemical junk and less nicotine.
i don't necessarily "need" a clove... its more of a "want"; simply because i enjoy smoking them.
its like smoking weed occasionally because you like it, not because you can't function without.

Chemical Burn wrote:It took me three tries but I quit cold turkey. I had been smoking for like twelve years. I've been clean for a year now. The only thing I really miss is smoking cloves. Regular cigs just smell like ass to me now.

That's the other thing, you'll smell better, your home and computer equipment will look better aside of the obvious health benefits. I couldn't fucking believe the amount of tar I washed off my computer case and monitor.

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...not to mention the yellowish walls of your room. I had to repaint my room every 2 years while still smoking.

Kn0wFuRy wrote:I just did a few months ago.

I had been smoking probably as long as you have been alive. =D

In any case, two things helped me the most, and yes, I have tried quitting before and failed.

1) Near constant prayer/discussion with God about the withdrawel symptoms and how I thought I was going crazy, etc., and other personal circumstances affecting the decision.

2) The logical realization that withdrawel symptoms are just your bodies way of trying to trick your brain into thinking it "needs" a very poisonous chemical that is most certainly does not. if we "needed" a smoke, we would either be born with nicotine or a means to acquire it.

Good luck and hang in there. It really isn't easy, but it is very possible and you will feel tremendously better, not to mention tasting and smelling better, and actually looking more intelligent. Plus you will not be limited in where you can go.

(Yes, this is Cathy posting.)

I don't recognize myself in any of this. Shit, had I known quitting would be so easy I would've done it years and years ago.
Hang in there SS and don't listen to people telling you it's nearly impossible, it isn't.

im sorry, but the combination of "discussion with God" and "logical realization" doesnt go well with me

Ok, haven't smoked yet, but I eat 2 packs of Fisherman's Friend mint drops a day. Not sure if this is better than smoking.

I think I can control the cravings, but here's a funny side effect I noticed:

Aside from the nicotine cravings, I also get alcohol cravings. Yesterday I drank some Vodka I had left, but now I've nothing left and I've caught myself thinking about going to the store and buying some more Vodka twice.

I also feel sick because of all the Fisherman's Friends, but they're like the only thing that keeps me from smoking.

random name wrote:

Kn0wFuRy wrote:I just did a few months ago.

I had been smoking probably as long as you have been alive. =D

In any case, two things helped me the most, and yes, I have tried quitting before and failed.

1) Near constant prayer/discussion with God about the withdrawel symptoms and how I thought I was going crazy, etc., and other personal circumstances affecting the decision.

2) The logical realization that withdrawel symptoms are just your bodies way of trying to trick your brain into thinking it "needs" a very poisonous chemical that is most certainly does not. if we "needed" a smoke, we would either be born with nicotine or a means to acquire it.

Good luck and hang in there. It really isn't easy, but it is very possible and you will feel tremendously better, not to mention tasting and smelling better, and actually looking more intelligent. Plus you will not be limited in where you can go.

(Yes, this is Cathy posting.)

I don't recognize myself in any of this. Shit, had I known quitting would be so easy I would've done it years and years ago.
Hang in there SS and don't listen to people telling you it's nearly impossible, it isn't.

I agree: it isn't nearly impossible. It is just very difficult. So don't be surprised by that aspect of it and give up when it isn't simple.

MKJ wrote:im sorry, but the combination of "discussion with God" and "logical realization" doesnt go well with me

It doesn't have to..I am just relating what worked for me.

Different things are going to work for different people.

i like the quiting but its not miuch o a challenge

try never scratchen when you haveing an itch,

never

SplishSplash wrote:I also feel sick because of all the Fisherman's Friends, but they're like the only thing that keeps me from smoking.

I don't know if you have these over there, but they helped me...the cinnamon altoids chewing gum:

I'm quitting on my birthday as a present to myself. Got 5 months to prepare myself.

its too easy not much of nothin

Dr_Watson wrote: i don't necessarily "need" a clove... its more of a "want"; simply because i enjoy smoking them.
its like smoking weed occasionally because you like it, not because you can't function without.

Yah that's what I was hoping you say, because I enjoyed smoking cloves but I never 'felt' addicted. I might smoke them now and again then if it's not going to be addictive.

Any brands you suggest I look for?

i've tried djarum, samporina, and those other wierd-o ones... can't remember the name ATM.
djarum are the only ones i like...
most of the other brands are too *harsh* or just taste funky.
the specials are by far my favorite.
mainly because they are the most "smokeable"
if you get the blacks they are too sweet to smoke more than one or two, they have a tendency to just make you feel ill if you have too many while out drinking.
the new djarum vanilla ones are pretty good too.
definately the lightest ones i've had.
you hardly notice you're smoking... and they seem to have less oils in them... but taste pretty interesting, nice mix of sweet clove and the vanilla.
actually quite similiar to vanilla coke in smoked form...

oh, and if you don't smoke them very often; its a good idea to remember to draw the smoke into your mouth, wait a second for it to cool a bit, then inhale.
its the best way to prevent the hotter burning oils in the clove resin from scorching your throat and lungs.

I smoked the Samporinas before, the ones that came in the black and red box. They seemed agreeable but those vanilla ones sound good. I'll give those a look next time I'm roaming near a place that'll sell 'em.

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Ok, update:

I havent smoked since last saturday. Not a single cigarette. It wasn't that hard. I even went out with other smokers and still didn't smoke.

Here's the problem:

I still WANT to smoke. No cravings, no addiction. I just WANT to smoke.
I feel like lighting up at least ten times a day.
When I'm bored at home, when I wait for somebody outside, ALL THE TIME actually.

I wasn't as bad as John Constantine, but I wasn't that far away either. In the movie they said he smoked 30 cigs a day, I smoked 20. Smoking is just a part of my life, a part of ME really. Friends tell me they can't imagine me without cigarettes. (Not that I care what they think, it's just an example)

I'm also missing some kind of goal. Not smoking isn't a goal. There's no point in time where I can say "Yay, I've done it.". That's really frustrating, because in my mind I'm always counting the days to the day when I can pick up smoking again. Only then I realize that there will be no such day if I really want to quit.

I'll try my best to continue this, but only to see if this feeling of "I wish I hadn't quit..." will ever go away.
It better will or I'll be smoking again pretty soon.

Don't let those little cancersticks get the best of you.

Just Stop.


Yeah, I hear your thoughts...they all start with 'but'.

No.... just stop.

Hang in there Splish, the mental effect wears off in a couple of months - but never goes away completely.

i've decided i'm happily addicted to smoking.

i enjoy having cigarettes, i see no reason to stop, and it's a completely win-win situation

i don't know what brands most of you are talking about, but here winfield blue rock my smoker socks.