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the sky's the right colour, at least for night (in a dust storm)

Red Faction: Guerrilla agrees with you.

i think mars has an opposite effect at night it has a hue of blue in the sky... or am I thinking of venus

chopov wrote:I was on Mars.......

Very nice there chopov

Thx

Portrait of an actor who is just about to appear in the new gangster film by Guy Ritchie. He's character is called "magic", which, incidentally, is actually his nickname in real life.

Yeahso wrote:the new gangster film by Guy Ritchie

we haven't had one of those in a while

Yeahso wrote: Portrait of an actor who is just about to appear in the new gangster film by Guy Ritchie. He's character is called "magic", which, incidentally, is actually his nickname in real life.

The Real Rock and Roller?

I need some details about the 12th please sir...

will sasso look a like lol

Yeahso wrote:

Portrait of an actor who is just about to appear in the new gangster film by Guy Ritchie. He's character is called "magic", which, incidentally, is actually his nickname in real life.

What were you using for the slight lighting coming in on his right side?

Camera right is a gridded beauty dish, and camera left is a silver gridded reflector, slightly behind him acting as a rim light to lift the back of his head out of the shadows. There's also a third light feathered against the back wall to create a big of depth.

Do you use a light meter to determine the settings for all the different flashes or just go by feel to get it set up?

Nah man, don't even own one. Don't really have any idea how they work either. I just start with one light and keep adding them until the shot has some depth.

I have one that I never use - I find it tedious and with some basic common sense about falloff, distance, etc., it seems to be unnecessary. Some folks are extremely anal about them - you've probably read descriptions of shoots where guys are listing the values for each light.

This is one I took last weekend. For light I used the sun...

And looking the other way...

Interesting xer0s

I too place the camera low sometimes for that angle.

Countryside there seems as flat as a .... pancake an the rails seem in use, so enlighten us; are they?

Id say yes by the shine on the rails in the 1st pic.

Yeahso wrote: Portrait of an actor who is just about to appear in the new gangster film by Guy Ritchie. He's character is called "magic", which, incidentally, is actually his nickname in real life.

This is one of those shots I'd love to see variations; ambient, one flash, two flash, three flash, pre photoshop, post, etc. Lighting is wonderful.

Yeahso or anyone else here who might have done something commercial in nature -

I've got a local startup company who wants to use an image of mine on their product (they are going to be making Vodka and want a pic of mine as their label). Their asking for a quote to use the image up front with a plan that would give me further future reimbursement based on a successful product. I have absolutely no idea what to charge up front or what to ask for down the road as I don't do any commercial work like this.

Any suggestions at all about where you'd start to determine what to charge?

Yeahso wrote:My work is being exhibited in the Tunnels at the Old Vic Theatre in London in February if anyone is in the area. 12th, I believe.

Food and rink available, prints for sale, etc...

Massively stoked about it, The Old Vic Tunnels were opened by Banksy and held one of his exhibitions. Awesome bragging rights.

No money involved, but I do get to sell my work there, and 3000 people are expected to attend, according to the organiser, so it should be good. Main thing is seeing my work on a wall though, that's a major buzz.

Dude...any news on this?

tnf wrote:Yeahso or anyone else here who might have done something commercial in nature -

I've got a local startup company who wants to use an image of mine on their product (they are going to be making Vodka and want a pic of mine as their label). Their asking for a quote to use the image up front with a plan that would give me further future reimbursement based on a successful product. I have absolutely no idea what to charge up front or what to ask for down the road as I don't do any commercial work like this.

Any suggestions at all about where you'd start to determine what to charge?

You need to find out exactly what they intend to use the image for, what licenses they require, and the likelihood that your picture will contribute to the product's success. You can find a lot of that out by asking them. If it's going to be the basis for their bottle design, you need to charge accordingly. I use Blinkbid to price a lot of jobs.

Don Carlos wrote:

Yeahso wrote:My work is being exhibited in the Tunnels at the Old Vic Theatre in London in February if anyone is in the area. 12th, I believe.

Food and rink available, prints for sale, etc...

Massively stoked about it, The Old Vic Tunnels were opened by Banksy and held one of his exhibitions. Awesome bragging rights.

No money involved, but I do get to sell my work there, and 3000 people are expected to attend, according to the organiser, so it should be good. Main thing is seeing my work on a wall though, that's a major buzz.

Dude...any news on this?

Don't have any information as yet, I know the website is http://www.civilunrest.net/ and the tickets are going live soon.

I probably won't be at the exhibition now, as it turns out. My work will be though.

Yeahso wrote:

tnf wrote:Yeahso or anyone else here who might have done something commercial in nature -

I've got a local startup company who wants to use an image of mine on their product (they are going to be making Vodka and want a pic of mine as their label). Their asking for a quote to use the image up front with a plan that would give me further future reimbursement based on a successful product. I have absolutely no idea what to charge up front or what to ask for down the road as I don't do any commercial work like this.

Any suggestions at all about where you'd start to determine what to charge?

You need to find out exactly what they intend to use the image for, what licenses they require, and the likelihood that your picture will contribute to the product's success. You can find a lot of that out by asking them. If it's going to be the basis for their bottle design, you need to charge accordingly. I use Blinkbid to price a lot of jobs.

It will literally be the image on their label - so it will be the image that people see every time they buy a bottle of it. I think it will contribute to the success of the product because it is a unique view of a local building/waterfall that people will recognize instantly and will give this brand local recognition. So its an important image for them - but I have no idea what accordingly is. I used an online tool that helps determine prices to charge for stock photo usage in print/ads based on the number of issues its in, size of the image, etc. But these seemed a bit low and this isn't exactly stock photography. They are planning on over $250,000 in sales within 4-5 years (which isn't bad for a small local operation - its not going to be a big nationwide brand).

I've had suggestions ranging from $900 to $5000. They are just now shopping around for investors and trying to get business costs laid out in their business plan. I just have a feeling I'm going to give them a ridiculously low number without realizing it and then kick myself later on.

$900 is way, way, way too fucking low. I would say even $5000 is on the low end.

Did they come to you or vice-versa? If they came to you, then you have some more bargaining power. I would say treat it like selling a car. Give 'em a high-ball offer and leave yourself some room to move around. If you say $900 to them they'll sign the paper before you even finish saying the word "hundred." Brand image and brand recognition is a huge part of a product like this and they know it (or they should.) I vote for something closer to $5000-$6000 or so and lend yourself the ability to back down a bit so you don't come off as pushy.