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Κracus wrote:we're gonna reach billions

Κracus wrote:we'll hit the billion mark

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I like the China one better...

Doombrain wrote:4.4m now, more like 20-30m. Only 970m to go!

You should think before you type, Rob.

Make mathematical sense

Mathematicianof Q3W

Κracus wrote:I guess if exponential growth is a new concept to you.

If the growth was exponential you'd be right. But: Growth has been mostly linear on a global level for quite some time:

https://interaktiv.morgenpost.de/corona ... -weltweit/

I definitely cannot read anything on that website but I'll take your word for it. That said those numbers aren't accurate. The number is always higher than can be reported and getting higher every day. I wouldn't be surprised if a billion people already had it in China.

Κracus wrote:I definitely cannot read anything on that website but I'll take your word for it. That said those numbers aren't accurate. The number is always higher than can be reported and getting higher every day. I wouldn't be surprised if a billion people already had it in China.

Using that, so would the survival numbers as unless there were significant symptoms most wouldn't get tested at all. I could have already had it and not known because I haven't been tested and therefore wouldn't be counted in any form. That being said, pretty much everyone is going to be exposed to it at some point. The whole idea of the lockdowns was not to prevent exposure, but to prevent everyone from being exposed at the same time. Chances are it will become as common as the flu.

Yeah that's how I see it going too unless we see somekind of vaccine.

In the uk were being fed a line about a possible vaccine by September from Astra Zeneca. Trails are happening now as well as production in case trails prove positive. The government just pumped another 84m into it.

I hope they do, but given all the info it just doesn’t seem possible this early.

You might be being lead down the wrong trail.

Scourge

Reported cases near 5 million

11 May 4,181,221

13 May 4,342,849

15 May 4,539,401

17 May 4,788,005

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Source #2

YourGrandpa wrote:You might be being lead down the wrong trial.

I fixed Brain's quote to match Doombrian's spelling

Braillient.

US deaths are a sniff away from 100k...that is frightening

we'll be lucky to stay under 40k here

Close now to 5 million reported cases

11 May 4,181,221

13 May 4,342,849

15 May 4,539,401

17 May 4,788,005

19 May 4,964,373

Source #1
Source #2

Don Carlos wrote:US deaths are a sniff away from 100k...that is frightening

That is really frightening.

Pext wrote:I think the best course of action is to have some kind of lockdown until the number of infections per capita is below a certain threshold. Then subsequently reopen, while analyzing the impact of the different lockdown measures.

For example: Most of Germany did pretty well with simply restricting the size of gatherings to (effectivey) 2 to 5 persons while closing restaurants and shops for a while. The parts where strict lockdowns where imposed (for example Bavaria) did not do better than other parts. So: There seems to be no need to stay at home all day if you have good social distancing. I went out on small hikes, bike cruises and played ping pong with my SO in the park without any problems.

We need to find out what measures are the most effective and stick to these.

Also: If a certain area/city/county experiences a big second wave, reimpose lockdown measures ASAP until the growth is halted.

Bavaria did not really have stricter rules than the other states, afaik. We allowed people from the same household to meet outside, do sports together, go grocery-shopping together, etc. And we were allowed to visit relatives to "help them". So, I visited my parents 3 or 4 times during the 9 weeks. And there was not a single sign of more police-force on the streets than there usually is. So, it was all quite chill in the end. It was by far no strict lockdown like the weeks Italiens had to endure. It was more of a shutdown than a lockdown.
Fortunately people kept calm and behaved rationally for the most part.

It really is only now during the last two weeks that the irrational folk come out in some significant numbers to protest against the shutdown-measures.
Which is weird as we are opening up exactly now.
These demonstrations are also strange in the conglomeration of people attending them. They come from all over the political spectrum and demo together. There are ultra-leftists, hippies, esoterics, self-proclaimed economy-experts, conspiracy-loonies and right-wingers up to antisemites all together sometimes. As seen in Stuttgart last Saturday with 5000 people. They are united by the belief that the gouvernement ("them") are stripping away some basic rights.
Freedom of speech, freedom of movement, freedom of gathering, freedom of self-control over one's body and all that.
They are mostly wrong in their very over-exaggerating opinions but they are loud and annoying, also and especially on social media.

Fortunately none of my relatives here in Germany share any of their beliefs and I'm actually proud of how rational my old parents handle the situation.

We've had opening day for a family-oriented-exhibition today. It was a pain in the ass and expensive to fulfill all the official reglementations.
We've had 0 visitors, not a single one. Granted, the PR-departement did fuck up. Advertisement wasn't present really.
Stil, it shocked all of us. ZERO...
Well, holidays are gonna start june 2nd. We lay our hopes on those two weeks. If those fail then we are in trouble.

Don Carlos wrote:US deaths are a sniff away from 100k...that is frightening

It all depends on what you're looking at. If you look at it as we have nearly 5 times the population but only 3 times more dead than the UK, then that puts a different light on it. I'm using the data from the links Whiskey posts btw. And all I'm saying is that if you look at it from perspectives other than total deaths, then there are some that are worse comparatively and of course a lot that are better. We just seem to be getting singled out a bit.

Probably has to do with America for decades trying to dictate what other countries do while being a third-world failed state itself.

Scourge wrote:... We just seem to be getting singled out a bit.

I wasn't targeting the USA it's just that is is a frightening number for a nation.

Looking for stats, Covid death as percentage of population and found this site of interest. I've yet to drill down the numbers but everyone knows or understands I trust, there are lies, damn lies and statistics .

Captain Mazda wrote:Probably has to do with America for decades trying to dictate what other countries do while being a third-world failed state itself.

So, more personal feelings than facts. Got it.

Whiskey 7 wrote:

Scourge wrote:... We just seem to be getting singled out a bit.

I wasn't targeting the USA it's just that is is a frightening number for a nation.

Looking for stats, Covid death as percentage of population and found this site of interest. I've yet to drill down the numbers but everyone knows or understands I trust, there are lies, damn lies and statistics .

There are some on the first link you post with the totals and currently the US is showing to be 12th on deaths per 1 million population. But, we're at the top of the list in other areas like total deaths, active cases, total recovered, etc. Lots of different ways to look at it. Looking at it with just deaths per million it's not really that high of a number compared to some, but as a total it looks worse.

Scourge wrote:

Captain Mazda wrote:Probably has to do with America for decades trying to dictate what other countries do while being a third-world failed state itself.

So, more personal feelings than facts. Got it.

Don't let your feelings cover the facts Randy :alert:

Captain Mazda wrote:
Don't let your feelings cover the facts Randy :alert:

You seem to be the one letting that happen. Regardless of your feelings toward America, the numbers are what they are. If you think I'm going to start trying to defend some of the fucked up shit our government has done, you're wrong. I'm not going to.

You're right, there's nothing the richest nation in the world could've done about its lack of basic human needs like healthcare and having to dig mass graves for corpses like some kind of third-world failed state.

:alert: