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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:01 pm
by losCHUNK
vauxhall rofl, worst cars ever

think the only thing i like of theres was the carlton LOTUS

although the monaro looks pretty cool

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:03 pm
by Doombrain
Lol, fucking hell. Look at the quality here
Volkswagen
Skoda
Seat
Bentley (& Rolls-Royce)
Audi
Bugatti
Lamborghini

Then look at this shower of shite :olo:
General Motors
Cadillac
Chevrolet
Pontiac
Buick
Oldsmobile
Saturn
Opel
Vauxhall
Saab
Holden
Isuzu
Fiat


:olo:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:05 pm
by losCHUNK
DB man watch out for vauxhalls, theyre fast as fuck mang :(

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:06 pm
by shaft
Youre right..lets compare 100k cars to 20k cars that 98% of the world drives.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:11 pm
by Doombrain
losCHUNK wrote:DB man watch out for vauxhalls, theyre fast as fuck mang :(

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you knows it

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Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:11 pm
by shaft
Im not trying to say that America doesnt have their fair share of shit cars. Im saying you get what you pay for. If youre looking to spend 40-50k on an Audi, you can find somthing just as nice that isnt european made. My car has been great so far, and i have no regrets buying it over an audi or an acura. Laugh at Vauxhalls all you want, you still cant compare Audi's and Bmw's, to cheap cars that everyong can afford. My point was, that GM and Toyota and the other giants might have thier fair share of shit cars, but their cars are everywhere, they must be doing somthing right.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:15 pm
by prince1000
i actually saw quite a few buicks when i was in shanghai. everything else was volkswagon tho, all the cabs are santanas.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:51 pm
by Turbine
AH Europe, the land of where everyone drives a BMW like Civics, I lived there once.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:05 pm
by shaft
Tell me about it, when I was in Europe the cabbys were driving nice benz's.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:19 pm
by losCHUNK
shaft wrote:Im not trying to say that America doesnt have their fair share of shit cars. Im saying you get what you pay for. If youre looking to spend 40-50k on an Audi, you can find somthing just as nice that isnt european made. My car has been great so far, and i have no regrets buying it over an audi or an acura. Laugh at Vauxhalls all you want, you still cant compare Audi's and Bmw's, to cheap cars that everyong can afford. My point was, that GM and Toyota and the other giants might have thier fair share of shit cars, but their cars are everywhere, they must be doing somthing right.
yer, theyre making the money back selling parts for the cars

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:58 pm
by hax103
Doombrain wrote:fucking lol. everyone know yanks car are built like shite :olo: by german car, i mean a good car

Don't be so bitter GZ. :olo:
Alot of euro cars aren't made with such high quality these days. While Mercedes (I think) still has a good rep, TVR & Jag & Citroen, etc. are not built ummm at the same enduring level :)

More Clarkson: "What's not so good is that he doesn't seem to have done anything at all about quality. The single biggest bugbear in TVR's past. ..I fear for TVR, I really do, because they need to spend their money on electrics that work, and wipers that stay put, rather than an endless array of pointless new models"

Euro cars. American cars. LOL. Both prolly get owned in the Quality/cost department by the Japs!

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:02 pm
by Nightshade
Doombrain wrote:This whole Europe Vs USA and cars thing is stupid.

Fact A: The USA has made a ‘few’ nice cars. The latest of which have borrowed European ideas and technology.

Fact B: Europe has been pumping out the worlds best cars since the invention of the engine.

It’s a fact kids and I’m afraid you’re all going to have to live with it.
Yeah, while the US was building the Shelby Cobra, The GT500, and Ferrari-stomping Corvettes, England was building Jags that couldn't stay out of the fucking shop. :olo:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:07 pm
by hax103
The funny thing is that the British usually do think the Jag is a quality, enduring kinda car.
Nightshade wrote:
Doombrain wrote:This whole Europe Vs USA and cars thing is stupid.

Fact A: The USA has made a ‘few’ nice cars. The latest of which have borrowed European ideas and technology.

Fact B: Europe has been pumping out the worlds best cars since the invention of the engine.

It’s a fact kids and I’m afraid you’re all going to have to live with it.
Yeah, while the US was building the Shelby Cobra, The GT500, and Ferrari-stomping Corvettes, England was building Jags that couldn't stay out of the fucking shop. :olo:

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:09 pm
by losCHUNK
if your gunna buy a jag do it properly

buy a rover and write it off

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:15 pm
by shaft
Rover, Aston Martin and Jag were bought by Ford.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:18 pm
by Nightshade
hax103 wrote:The funny thing is that the British usually do think the Jag is a quality, enduring kinda car.
Nightshade wrote:
Doombrain wrote:This whole Europe Vs USA and cars thing is stupid.

Fact A: The USA has made a ‘few’ nice cars. The latest of which have borrowed European ideas and technology.

Fact B: Europe has been pumping out the worlds best cars since the invention of the engine.

It’s a fact kids and I’m afraid you’re all going to have to live with it.
Yeah, while the US was building the Shelby Cobra, The GT500, and Ferrari-stomping Corvettes, England was building Jags that couldn't stay out of the fucking shop. :olo:
I think that they are quality vehicles, well, except for the Ford influenced shit. They used to be famous for being tempermental, bitchy, unreliable crap. Pretty to look at, though.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:26 pm
by Guest
This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:42 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
this is the best toxicbug topic ever, and its funny that he got shunned from the middle of the first page...

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:53 pm
by hax103
ToxicBug wrote:This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.
Actually, Topgear is on right NOW and they are covering the Audio RS4. Jeremy Clarkson is saying that the RS4 is the "George Bush" of sedans - its a small car that makes you want to think its big and impressive :)

Brilliant timing ala Clarkson

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:57 pm
by Deathshroud
ToxicBug wrote:This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.
You have yet to impress anyone. I wanna know why you think this car does anything more than suck air and gas.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 8:03 pm
by hate
only people i see driving faggoty european cars

are faggoty americans

niche?

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:04 pm
by Nightshade
ToxicBug wrote:This discussion was not about how fast a car is, I never said that the RS4 was fast. I only said that it has a N/A V8 that makes 100hp/L, to which no american V8 comes even close to. Thus they are years behind in technology.
My god, you really are a fucking idiot, aren't you? You know, Audi has made a technologically impressive engine. Good for them. You are so far removed from understanding anything about why it's impressive or anything else about automotive powerplants that it's scary. And your huge leap from 'no 100hp/liter engine' to 'years behind' is mind boggling.
This is why you don't see me posting arguments about deep philosophical issues. BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW A FUCKING THING ABOUT THEM. Just because you read car magazines and watch Top Gear doesn't make you a fucking expert, dummy.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:07 pm
by Pantsman
this is the part where i chime in and say audi's are ugly too.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:08 pm
by Bdw3
Doombrain wrote:I think most people would take the audi over the yank car anyday.

lol, fact.
I'm no huge fan of American branded autos... but...

That girly Audi or a Vett.....

Fuck no.... give me the Vett!

Already have a people hauler that will last ages longer than an Audi anyway. (Toyota > * quality)
Hell even if we didn't I'll still rather have a Vett.

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 9:34 pm
by Turbine
Corvette's are truly ugly car's.
They lack any style and certainly, class.

They look as if thou they where made for people with short dicks; to compensate for their lack of.

American and European car markets differ greatly when it comes to te actual look of the car, the European designers carry more class in their cars, because that is what Europeans want. Where did Ludwig van Beethoven and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart come from?

A corvette is good looking only in a American society and values sort of way.