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Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 8:32 am
by Eraser
Oh I fully agree with that. It's just that in your list of genres, a severe (essential) part of the DS catalogue seems to be missing and it's especially that part that sets the DS beyond the age old "kiddy" image Nintendo has.

I fully agree that the DS and PSP both aim towards different types of games and I think both systems fit exactly the type of game they're going after. I just wanted to make it clear that the DS is far more than Virtual Pets (of which there's only one, Nintendogs), RPG's and family games.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:11 am
by MKJ
ds is all about the rpgs :@
to me at least :D

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:52 am
by chiQ
Eraser wrote:Oh I fully agree with that. It's just that in your list of genres, a severe (essential) part of the DS catalogue seems to be missing and it's especially that part that sets the DS beyond the age old "kiddy" image Nintendo has.

I fully agree that the DS and PSP both aim towards different types of games and I think both systems fit exactly the type of game they're going after. I just wanted to make it clear that the DS is far more than Virtual Pets (of which there's only one, Nintendogs), RPG's and family games.
If course it's more than just 'fun for all the family', but to a larger degree that's exactly what it is. If you're playing the odds then the less typical part of the library isn't the basis of a good choice for you.

The genres I listed were off the top of my head, and because they're representative of the 'feel' of a good proportion of the DS catalogue. I think Nintendo want it that way. They seem more discerning and controlling where content is concerned than Sony or Microsoft are.

I have both, and enjoy titles for both, but if could only have one it'd be the one with more games I like, rather than the one with more that don't appeal to me. DS and PSP are for the most part polarised differently, though both cover the whole spectrum to a certain degree, so a binary choice should be made based on that polarity, not on the less representative genres of each.

We're talking about a basic one-or-the-other choice here, and not the finer points of each catalogue, which is what you seem to be picking me up on.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:47 am
by o'dium
For me, the PSP is a handheld that tries to be a console. It tried to do the same thing that you have at home, only its far worse at doing it. A handhel is about having fun in short amounts of time and if possible, with friends. The DS fits that need perfectly, because you just cant buy anything else like it.

Buying a PSP will do one thing. It will gather dust on your shelf. You say you have Daxter and Gripshift, while bot hcan be found on PS2 either in exactly the same form, or in slightly different form. Now while gripshift is a sub parr racer it IS a pick up and play game, so thats cool. But Daxter is a fiddly one that takes ages to do anything and you can only play it if you have a good half hour or more to play, sitting down, not being fussed. Thats not the point of a handheld game...?

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:01 pm
by Transient
o'dium wrote:A handhel is about having fun in short amounts of time and if possible, with friends.
Then shouldn't the 16 hour versus 2 hour battery life be a little less significant? ;)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:28 pm
by o'dium
Transient wrote:
o'dium wrote:A handhel is about having fun in short amounts of time and if possible, with friends.
Then shouldn't the 16 hour versus 2 hour battery life be a little less significant? ;)
Its also about having fun whenever you want ;) I.e being able to leave the house for 2 weeks and ahve enough charge to not have to charge it again. I know what i would rather take on holiday.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:29 pm
by MKJ
a cock up the ass?

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:35 pm
by o'dium
MKJ wrote:a cock up the ass?
No, would make the plane travel to annoying.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:36 pm
by MKJ
turbulence helps

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:52 pm
by Foo
o'dium wrote:Its also about having fun whenever you want ;) I.e being able to leave the house for 2 weeks and ahve enough charge to not have to charge it again. I know what i would rather take on holiday.

Yes, we all know this, because your won't stop telling us in your endless ream of dogmatic posts.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:54 pm
by o'dium
Which you can skip at any time, Like i do you threads that have noting to do with anything, and are so border line qwfix its silly ;)

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 4:57 pm
by Foo
Lol, a rare glimpse of o'dium's of oligarchal aspirations.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 7:28 pm
by chiQ
o'dium wrote:For me, the PSP is a handheld that tries to be a console. It tried to do the same thing that you have at home, only its far worse at doing it. A handhel is about having fun in short amounts of time and if possible, with friends. The DS fits that need perfectly, because you just cant buy anything else like it.

Buying a PSP will do one thing. It will gather dust on your shelf. You say you have Daxter and Gripshift, while bot hcan be found on PS2 either in exactly the same form, or in slightly different form. Now while gripshift is a sub parr racer it IS a pick up and play game, so thats cool. But Daxter is a fiddly one that takes ages to do anything and you can only play it if you have a good half hour or more to play, sitting down, not being fussed. Thats not the point of a handheld game...?
I play PSP games in all sorts of contexts. I agree that Daxter isn't a game-bite title, but they don't all have to be; why should they be?

I spend a fair bit of time playing PSP at home, just blobbing out on the couch. I have to sit on a train for an hour to get into Wellington Central, etc. so Daxter is great for me both at home and away from it, as are others in my library. If I want a game-bite I play Gripshift or Ape Academy or the like.

Just because it's a portable doesn't mean more profound gameplay is incompatible with the device. It just means YOU limited in your perceptions of what it should do.

Edit: as to the titles being on PS2, they're not. I have a number of games from the same genre and a few from the same IP as Daxter, but I don't have Daxter on any other platform, and as far as I know it's not available. Gripshift is not yet out for any other platform. It's a fairly cool puzzle/platformer on wheels, and I really like it as a game-bite title. It suits one part of my PSP usage down to the ground.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 9:23 pm
by MKJ
:) im just so glad she's back

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:12 pm
by Iccy
o'dium wrote:Ahh heres a nice pic to show you the two, it really is like night and day in real life. I have a friend who got one from Japan and my word i've wanted one ever since:

EDIT: Bollocks, wont let me link pics. Go here and click the links:

http://www.4colorrebellion.com/archives ... -original/

Plus a video review for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp7Be1qsblI
Wow the DSLite is WAY fucking better. That video review sold me brotha. It looks like a ipod, thats so cool. I didnt even think also that you can use a DSLite as a pda cant you ? If so that means it will also fill my pda needs which would own.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:43 pm
by LawL
o'dium wrote:Buying a PSP will do one thing. It will gather dust on your shelf.
I play my psp almost every day, I don't seem to have any dust problems.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:48 pm
by SOAPboy
Law wrote:
o'dium wrote:Buying a PSP will do one thing. It will gather dust on your shelf.
I play my psp almost every day, I don't seem to have any dust problems.
Hello minority

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:52 pm
by LawL
Hello assumption.

Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:55 pm
by chiQ
Does that make SOAPboy the mother of all fuck-ups? :confused: