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Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 7:59 pm
by Captain
Try centuries of Native blood on their hands.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:03 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Well...they did apologize for some of the "native" stuff recently...but I blame the church for that, not Canada.

I think the only "human rights" issue that is very prevailant in Canada is the tasering bullshit. Cops here think it's candy they're dolling out.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:38 pm
by tnf
Bush gets up and criticizes Russia for invading a country without even batting an eye....amazing arrogance this one has.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:41 pm
by QuakeThane
tnf wrote:Bush gets up and criticizes Russia for invading a country without even batting an eye....amazing arrogance this one has.
:offended: - The US was seeking weapons of Mass destruction. Russia is just acting up since China is distracted by the Olympics. We helped out Iraq and even got a few of their women outta turbines. I seen em on You Tube now.

http://smouch.net/lol/

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:46 pm
by tnf
QuakeThane wrote:
tnf wrote:Bush gets up and criticizes Russia for invading a country without even batting an eye....amazing arrogance this one has.
:offended: - The US was seeking weapons of Mass destruction. Russia is just acting up since China is distracted by the Olympics. We helped out Iraq and even got a few of their women outta turbines. I seen em on You Tube now.

http://smouch.net/lol/
Ya horka, that's it. Even though everyone in the intelligence organizations knew the case for WMD's was bullshit.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:54 pm
by Dark Metal
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
I think the only "human rights" issue that is very prevailant in Canada is the tasering bullshit. Cops here think it's candy they're dolling out.
I call bullshit on you sir. The media has sucked you in like you suck in a twinkie.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:06 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
I said,"I think the only human rights issue"...I wasn't definitive. Feel free to list more issues.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 10:09 pm
by QuakeThane
tnf wrote:
Ya horka, that's it. Even though everyone in the intelligence organizations knew the case for WMD's was bullshit.
Well I think Russia was screaming the same thing when we invaded Iraq. "Oh we demand the US to stop this aggression." Now puppet master Putin is gonna Roll the Euro into a recession so the US Dolla will rise. Its all apart of the Master plot of smoke and Mirrors. :toothy:

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:50 pm
by Ryoki
Captain Mazda wrote:Except it really was the Georgians planning genocide against the South Ossetians. Russia saved them by intervening. Most people are just too dumb to look beyond CNN and Faux News and look for any excuse to jump on the anti-Putin/Russia bandwagon.
Genocide is a big word... It's a dirty landgrab that went horribly wrong and civilians tend to get killed in those. Semi random shelling is not systematically wiping out a people. I'm thinking Putin threw that one out there as a sort of preemptive strike, before the Western press could use that one against Russia for what they're doing in Georgia.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:10 am
by Massive Quasars
Here's some rubbish to pass the time.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 57,00.html

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:10 pm
by tnf
Mainstream media is saying Russians are pushing further into Georgia despite the truce possibly heading to the capital while the Russians are telling everyone they aren't going to the capital.
What's the story?

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:20 pm
by Ryoki
They won't unless they're crazy and want to turn a complete military and political victory into defeat.

Wouldn't disregard those reports though, the russians might very well be playing a fun scare-the-georgians game.

Also, as i understand it technically the French truce plan isn't official yet, so far it's a 'cessation of hostilities'.

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Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:41 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
tnf wrote:Mainstream media is saying Russians are pushing further into Georgia despite the truce possibly heading to the capital while the Russians are telling everyone they aren't going to the capital.
What's the story?
It's simple: Ignore the mainstream media.

If you keep paying attention to them you'll eventually believe that the Georgians were attacked in an unprovoked manner, that the Russians are killing and eating Georgian babies, that Russia's plans for the area will eventually culminate into marching south-west and invading Isreal to steal their bags of jew gold and that they must be stopped at all costs lest freedom disappear in the universe.....

....or along those lines.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:55 pm
by losCHUNK
just switched the mainstream news on too and they were syaing that georgia was far from innocent but the ruskies are parading round georgian towns and cities like its there own back yard ?

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:30 pm
by tnf
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
tnf wrote:Mainstream media is saying Russians are pushing further into Georgia despite the truce possibly heading to the capital while the Russians are telling everyone they aren't going to the capital.
What's the story?
It's simple: Ignore the mainstream media.

If you keep paying attention to them you'll eventually believe that the Georgians were attacked in an unprovoked manner, that the Russians are killing and eating Georgian babies, that Russia's plans for the area will eventually culminate into marching south-west and invading Isreal to steal their bags of jew gold and that they must be stopped at all costs lest freedom disappear in the universe.....

....or along those lines.
I've already mentioned that the Georgians were not attacked in an unprovoked manner and that they had been fucking with the South Ossetians prior to all this.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:00 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
I know that. My post wasn't a troll, it was a guess at the retardation of the propaganda that we are in store for.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:13 pm
by seremtan
this picture more or less sums up a complex geopolitical situation in simple cartoon form:

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Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:15 pm
by Doombrain
lol

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:26 pm
by tnf
Most Americans would probably still find that too complex.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:22 pm
by Foo
So is Ossetia a state in its own right or is it part of Russia or Georgia?

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:55 pm
by QuakeThane
U.S. is sending aid and the balloon could be going up if someone messes up. The Prez of Georgia is saying the U.S. is taking control of ports and airports. I'm heading out to stock up on gas, lol.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:27 pm
by Tormentius
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
I think the only "human rights" issue that is very prevailant in Canada is the tasering bullshit. Cops here think it's candy they're dolling out.
The Braidwood inquiry finished up here in BC recently with the finding that the Taser is a legitimate tool, albeit (much) more training is required. The inquiry made some good points though. In the past the Taser occupied the same level as a baton on the use of force continuum. The recommendation was that it be moved to a new category between non-lethal (OC spray, batons) and lethal (firearms) use of force levels. By making that change officers would have to justify the Taser's use and use other control methods first rather than using it as a first response. Hopefully the RCMP gets moving on implementing that recommendation in the near future.

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:27 pm
by seremtan
Foo wrote:So is Ossetia a state in its own right or is it part of Russia or Georgia?
it's an autonomous region, whatever that means, and it's full of people who aren't georgian

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:16 pm
by andyman
tnf wrote:Mainstream media is saying Russians are pushing further into Georgia despite the truce possibly heading to the capital while the Russians are telling everyone they aren't going to the capital.
What's the story?
media simply means median, it's a barrier between what really happens and what we're told... unfortunately hardly anybody looks beyond or around the mainstream media and refuses to accept anything other than what the big news corporations choose to tell them.

And I don't have an answer for your question...

Re: Russia invades Georgia

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:13 am
by MKJ
lol @ cartoon