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obsidian wrote:

Tsakali wrote:they make for the weakest most unimaginative antagonists of all time.

Ever watch a George A. Romero zombie movie? At their root, they are social commentaries on human behaviour. In any zombie movie, the zombies themselves are rarely the antagonist, they're just a means to the apocalypse. The real antagonists are usually human and what they do to each other out of desperation for survival.

Besides, zombies make for great action when you can see their heads being blown off without the censors going nuts about on-screen violence when the slaughter is targeted against hordes of mindless people who are already dead.

Haven't watched any that i can recall. However I do I like your interpretation of the genre.

seremtan wrote:lot of plot holes in this show...

why obsess over a holdall of guns surrounded by zombies when they're in georgia which must have at least one gun store in every town?

because they know exactly where it is, and once the horse eaters have left is easy to get to.

seremtan wrote:how come that alternative way off the roof where they handcuffed the redneck never came up earlier?

because that's the way narrative works; it develops. yeah, lot of fun it would be if we were apprised of all options and outcomes in advance, no?

seremtan wrote:how come deputy's wife got over his death so quickly she was ready to bump uglies with his chum?

because she's a whore? no, seriously, we're not exactly told how much time is between husband's hospitalization and extra-marital fornication.
how much time would you deem decent before moving on?

seremtan wrote:how did the korean guy just happen to have the frequency of the radio in that tank?

if i remeber correctly, the tank was just sitting there (albeit with a reasonably fresh zombie), so a lot of time alloted for the asian guy (who we all know are intrinsically tech savvy) to home in on it.

seremtan wrote:how, for that matter, did the tank crew get overrun, and not just drive the tank away from the walkers?

fair question, but even tanks run out of gas.

seremtan wrote:why does no one wonder until 6 eps in if this event is global or not?

because you're just trying to survive, and postpone to a later date, when you have the luxury to contemplate the bigger picture.

seremtan wrote:how is a disease which spreads through *biting* so contagious (especially since it seems to take only a week or so for almost *everyone* to become infected)? i mean, even airborne contagions don't spread this fast...

pivotal question, i agree. just think that in the initial phase of the outbreak there was a lot of non/mis-information. but therein lies the "solution" of isolating the disease.

seremtan wrote:why has no one considered the idea of heading for the coast and looking for a small island to get away from the walkers (once they've cleared the island of course)?

didn't they talk about exactly doing that, in the last episode i watched?


i don't want to come off as a some pedantic cunt, obsessively disputing every point of criticism on this show; it's not like i hold stock, or something.
But i think the creators went out of their way to create, and indeed achieved, a believable setting for such a catastrophic scenario.

seremtan wrote:
i honestly can't tell if you're being sarcastic here or not

however, they are a pretty weak opponent, which is probably why zombie-related movies/games depict them as swarms and humans as hopelessly outnumbered. in a 1-to-1 matchup they'd be toast before lunchtime

i wasn't being sarcastic which probably means my words have failed me. but yeah even at a 1 to 10 ratio I find it always sets up for boring encounters, both in movies and games. oh well, this wont be the first time i don't agree with the populous.

jesus what's next, a thread scientifically debunking vampires?

Plan B wrote:etc etc

i guess you have a higher tolerance for narrative implausibility than me

i didn't even get on to the stereotypical characters either; i mean, i know rednecks aren't the sharpest tools in the box, but those guys are just retarded beyond the call of doody

Ryoki wrote:jesus what's next, a thread scientifically debunking vampires?

a thread scientifically debunking dutchees

seremtan wrote:
i guess you have a higher tolerance for narrative implausibility than me

You also have a higher tolerance for missing the explanation the show gives as to how the infection spread.

But it's not the point is it? Like Obs said, the genre is mostly about group dynamics and how people work together / screw each other over in the face of their inevitable demise. There have been some pretty blatant plotholes in season 1, it's true... but i mostly blame it on the unexpected success of the show.

seremtan wrote:a thread scientifically debunking dutchees

i reject your reality!! :E

thanks for the cliff notes, guyblowki

it's still watchable

http://io9.com/5830082/amcs-crazy-ideas ... lking-dead

Laaaaame...

So that's that.

I'm currently watching this television show now and it's pretty awesome. It's like live action Left4Dead

Shame to read what they're doing to season 2...

bitWISE wrote:http://io9.com/5830082/amcs-crazy-ideas-for-cutting-costs-on-the-walking-dead

Oh... that's not good

i think ryoki is correct

sucks :/

Just goes to show that even the most commercially successful / critically acclaimed shows aren't safe from utterly retarded producers, trying their hardest to make it flop. Sad to see it happen to The Walking Dead, which showed such promise. All it takes is a string of shit episodes and people will soon lose interest. Darabont now gone pretty much seals the deal.

To people bitching about zombies being boring in this day and age, did you stop and think that maybe, just maybe, this isn't a show about zombies in that sense? The show is about survival in a crisis, about team work and about the bonding of humans who, in any other circumstance, wouldn't give each other the time of day. It just happens that the problem lurking in the shadows are zombies.

That’s why the walkers are given a back seat 90% of the time in the show... Its not about them, just how you deal with surviving in the middle of them.

True, zombies are about as dull as you get for an enemy, they don't exactly DO anything, and they can be beat by just running away... But dealing with friends and family as they die around you and you can't do jack shit to stop it...? That makes for good TV. It’s got plot holes, sure, but hey I gave half a decade to watching Lost, and to be honest I'm happy The Walking Dead makes at least SOME sense.

Its popcorn TV. Enjoy it, and take it for what it is.

lol, this is the company that made Rubicon, a show in which almost nothing significant happened until ep10. it was, however, a cheap show to make (at least it looked like it didn't cost much)

fair to say AMC aren't going to be challenging HBO any time soon

o'dium wrote:To people bitching about zombies being boring in this day and age, did you stop and think that maybe, just maybe, this isn't a show about zombies in that sense? The show is about survival in a crisis, about team work and about the bonding of humans who, in any other circumstance, wouldn't give each other the time of day. It just happens that the problem lurking in the shadows are zombies.

That’s why the walkers are given a back seat 90% of the time in the show... Its not about them, just how you deal with surviving in the middle of them.

True, zombies are about as dull as you get for an enemy, they don't exactly DO anything, and they can be beat by just running away... But dealing with friends and family as they die around you and you can't do jack shit to stop it...? That makes for good TV. It’s got plot holes, sure, but hey I gave half a decade to watching Lost, and to be honest I'm happy The Walking Dead makes at least SOME sense.

Its popcorn TV. Enjoy it, and take it for what it is.

You're contradicting yourself. Which is it, a cerebral show with depth and meaning, or popcorn TV?

seremtan wrote:lol, this is the company that made Rubicon, a show in which almost nothing significant happened until ep10. it was, however, a cheap show to make (at least it looked like it didn't cost much)

fair to say AMC aren't going to be challenging HBO any time soon

I followed Rubicon, but I can understand why the plug got pulled.
It was boring as hell with a plot trying to pick up steam, but ultimately going nowhere.

TWD had so much potential and was in the right hands with Darabont.
Not someone to fuck around when handling post apocalyptic material, like he proved with The Mist.
Ah well, he had his tv adventure. Fuck it and go back to cinema.
AMC shot itself in the foot by letting him go. TWD could well have been a flag ship for them with significant longevity.
Still, AMC is left with Mad Men and Breaking Bad as their flag ships. Both pretty strong shows challenging any HBO stuff.

o'dium wrote:To people bitching about zombies being boring in this day and age, did you stop and think that maybe, just maybe, this isn't a show about zombies in that sense? The show is about survival in a crisis, about team work...blahdeeblah

Who exactly are you ranting against?
I haven't seen any comments about zombie fatigue.
Sounds more like you only just recently had this insight and are now projecting.

Allow me to project my cock into your anus.

Hehe.

Does Overdose have zombies?
They must be starving right now...7 years in a showcase boxmap and only your tiny brain to feast upon.

Truth

Why do they call the zombies "geeks" in this series?