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Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:44 am
by Ryoki
http://www.salon.com/2013/06/17/five_ma ... nowden_qa/
Some interesting points from the Q&A with Snowden yesterday. Interesting stuff if you're not a moron.
Further, it’s important to bear in mind I’m being called a traitor by men like former Vice President Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead.
Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American, and the more panicked talk we hear from people like him, Feinstein, and King, the better off we all are. If they had taught a class on how to be the kind of citizen Dick Cheney worries about, I would have finished high school.
I like this guy

Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:57 am
by Transient
I wonder if he actually has more stuff to share with the public?
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:16 am
by Ryoki
All I can say right now is the US Government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.
I'm guessing yes.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:57 am
by MKJ
so FB and MS fessed up. lol
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:28 pm
by Transient
Ryoki wrote:All I can say right now is the US Government is not going to be able to cover this up by jailing or murdering me. Truth is coming, and it cannot be stopped.
I'm guessing yes.
I read that, too, but it sounds a lot like one of those empty threats that hacktivists say and then never follow through with.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:46 pm
by Ryoki
It does, yes.
Still, he seems better prepared and / or more media savy than previous whistleblowers.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:13 pm
by Plan B
So he suggests he has more info; why didn't he disclose it all at once?
If he wants to use it as leverage, that would imply he's willing to keep information, he so valliantly wants to share with the public, under wraps in exchange for not being prosecuted.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:43 pm
by scared?
This guy is a psych op obviously...totally staged...
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:52 pm
by losCHUNK
Ryoki wrote:It does, yes.
Still, he seems better prepared and / or more media savy than previous whistleblowers.
Packing his bags and running like a cunt was a good start

. The Wikileaks guy ?, Bradley Manning ?, he was a moron. Still not entirely sure why Assange has been locked in an Ecuadorian house for years now either, if the US wanted him they would stand a better chance with UK extradition laws rather than Swedish ?.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:41 pm
by seremtan
yeah but UK govt can't do that if there's an outstanding warrant from Sweden
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:24 pm
by losCHUNK
Aye but he's saying that these false allegations are raised to arrest him in Sweden so that the US can file for extradition ?. They could've just asked the UK to arrest him in his sleep like.
Or is it the Swedish courts he's afraid of and I'm listening to conspiracy theorists ?
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:47 pm
by seremtan
i think the UK government would rather someone else hand over Assange to the US, to avoid the inevitable shitstorm that would ensue
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:06 am
by Tsakali
so they are pussies on both sides of the coin.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:50 am
by losCHUNK
Not like the UK to get pussy over extradition but makes as much sense as anything else.
Someones fibbing.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:45 pm
by seremtan
Tsakali wrote:so they are pussies on both sides of the coin.
because nothing says manliness quite like bending over for the USA

Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:38 pm
by seremtan
oh hey,
NSA ain't got nothing on GCHQ
Britain's spy agency GCHQ has secretly gained access to the network of cables which carry the world's phone calls and internet traffic and has started to process vast streams of sensitive personal information which it is sharing with its American partner, the National Security Agency (NSA)... The existence of the programme has been disclosed in documents shown to the Guardian by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden as part of his attempt to expose what he has called "the largest programme of suspicionless surveillance in human history". "It's not just a US problem. The UK has a huge dog in this fight," Snowden told the Guardian. "They [GCHQ] are worse than the US."... The Americans were given guidelines for its use, but were told in legal briefings by GCHQ lawyers: "We have a light oversight regime compared with the US".
great
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:31 pm
by Transient
Fucking hell...
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:58 pm
by seremtan
but did you notice this?
The processing centres apply a series of sophisticated computer programmes in order to filter the material through what is known as MVR – massive volume reduction. The first filter immediately rejects high-volume, low-value traffic, such as peer-to-peer downloads, which reduces the volume by about 30%.
so don't worry, your weekly fix of Game of Thrones is safe

Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:54 pm
by Plan B
Yes, praise jesus for these "sophisticated computer programmes" that filter out files that are shared by 1000+ people. Probably no terrorists there. What genius.
Christ, 99% of internet traffic is porn, piracy, or pricks yolo'ing it up on their face twats. Fuck that, let's still trawl the entirety, because maybe achmed is telling karim to explode his vest a little earlier in a gmail.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 5:26 am
by losCHUNK
Do anonymous have the equivalent of a batman floodlight to shine in the sky ?
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:15 pm
by Plan B
Oh, yeah. Then
Michael Hastings dies in a car crash hours after e-mailing about how he was working on something big regarding surveillance, and had to go off the radar.
Total coincidence maybe, but things like these really get the conspiracy theory juices flowing.
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 11:32 pm
by scared?
They killed Michael! Time to rise up!...
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:01 am
by seremtan
just as soon as you've finished installing the pool!
Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 10:22 am
by Transient
Snowden is on the move again:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-23019414
It is unclear what Mr Snowden's final destination will be. There has been speculation about Ecuador and Iceland, while Russia's Interfax news agency quoted a source as saying there is a ticket in his name for a flight to Cuba.
Edit: a better link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/global/2013/j ... oscow-live
And I can't help but laugh at the obsessive following he's gotten from some news sites. You can even track his flight in
real time.

Re: Huge nationwide NSA surveillance program leaked
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 1:49 pm
by seremtan
Ecuador would be a safer bet. Latin America seems to be a part of the globe that isn't part of the 'global' war on terror