I agree it won't stop things entirely, but it would make things a lot harder for these guys to get hold of. Then you have an easier job of tracking these types of things. And it isn't just the terrorists with guns, its the almost weekly "Kid finds gun and shots mother/sister/brother" stories. Columbine, Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech - these are not terrorist activities. These are angry kids or people with guns you can buy when you go to pick up some milk.YourGrandpa wrote:I agree that there should be stricter regulations for the sale of mag fed pistols and rifles in this country. However, Dampstain's original post was derogatory, vague and assumptive. Implying that this would have never happened if "Fat Neck" America had stricter gun laws. This guy wasn't your average criminal looking to knock over a liquor store. He was a terrorist. Sure, guns were what he used to kill people in the nightclub. But there are reports he was wearing a bomb vest and explosive materials were discovered where he lived. This guy was going to kill a lot of people no matter what. No "law" is going to prevent terrorism.Don Carlos wrote:I'm assuming it's Geoff trying to say "terrorists will still get Guns even if they are banned"
What he doesn't get is that a 1k gun becomes a 20k and they become a lot harder to obtain by your average fuckwit or 16 year old kid. Stricter selling laws and background checks would also help...
To address your point about what happens when guns are "banned". It's naive. To think there is some kind of real value to be gained from stripping millions of there rights to prevent the actions of a few... Nonsense.
You can make bombs out of fertiliser and a few other bits and bobs you can get from various stores, so that is just one of those things. If someone is that determined to hurt people they will. Hell, just drive a car as fast as you can into a crowd of people if you want. You'll cause a shit load of deaths. Getting a car is easier than getting a gun, but it's more effort to do that than to just pull a trigger on a weapon that fires 30 rounds in 5 seconds. That shit can be done on a whim.
Also I do agree there is real value in banning them. As a country, you have some of the most terrible laws I have every heard of. The three strikes law is utterly stupid but they won't get rid of it because private companies running prisons make too much money from it. Is it the same thing with guns? Are too many jobs and too much money at risk? You are also a country that is capable of "progressive" thinking. I am happy to see places like Colorado, Alaska and a few others have started selling weed legally and are making a shit ton of money from it. They don't sell cocaine or meth though...the drugs that can really fuck people up. Why not use the same premise with guns? Sell hand guns with stricter laws but get rid of the assault rifles etc. I personally think you should just ban them, but that won't happen over night. So baby steps.