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Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:35 am
by Ferrao10
I don't need to read your "article" really.
I just have to look at how lockdowns are lifted and COVID-19 spreads and what experts all around the world tell their leaders to do.
Trump has his own vision. Good luck following it.
What do you mean by
"as soon as the election is over we'll be on to something else" ?
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:09 am
by YourGrandpa
Yeah don't bother reading, you might suffer from exposure to an alternate source of information and that'd be terrible.
What did you not understand about that sentence?
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 7:31 am
by Doombrain
alternate source of information :olo:
Here's some alternate "facts".
https://www.gzeromedia.com/the-graphic- ... s-eu-vs-us
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:56 am
by vesp
What, you mean you don't trust a graph edited in the Snipping tool from a "Covid Calculator" that lets you play around with your own numbers???
Maybe you just need an open mind to alternate sources of information..
[lvlshot]https://miro.medium.com/max/2000/1*YO70xrW3oGLGZ9vL60YNeQ.png[/lvlshot]
:tard: :clownboat:
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:47 am
by Κracus
Good thing is the US will be a great baseline to see if your country is doing well in terms of it's covid response. Thanks Trump!
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:57 am
by xer0s
YourGrandpa wrote:Eraser wrote:Gramps links to a site where the very first thing you see is this:
"Anyone can publish on Medium per our Policies, but we don’t fact-check every story. For more info about the coronavirus, see cdc.gov."
:olo:
What part of the article are you having problems with? Was it the title? Was it all the charts and graphs? Maybe it was the 50+ sources referenced at the end? Do you not believe the content of the article? If not. What do you believe?
Do you believe when the WHO says there is no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission?
https://www.who.int/csr/don/12-january- ... -china/en/
Do you believe when the WHO says Covid-19 is not a global emergency?
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/23/heal ... gency.html
Do you believe when the US Surgeon General and CDC say masks do not prevent the spread of Covid-19?
https://twitter.com/Surgeon_General/sta ... 00304.html
Or do you believe when the CDC says masks do prevent the spread of Covid-19?
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... dance.html
Do you believe when the CDC says Covid-19 spreads easily on surfaces?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/c ... story.html
Or do you believe when the CDC says Covid-19 doesn’t spread easily on surfaces?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2 ... te-states/
Do you believe when the WHO says asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is rare?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/08/health/c ... index.html
Or do you believe when the WHO says asymptomatic transmission of Covid-19 is not rare?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/09/who-scr ... known.html
Do you believe the CDC mixed viral and antibody testing?
https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/22/health/c ... index.html
Or do you need a likely biased fact checker to tell you what to believe/partially believe?
This dumb motherfucker doesn’t know how science works. The experts/scientists gather current data and draw conclusions by that set of data. They're then able to give their best guidance using the most current data. Once new data comes in, different conclusions can and will be made. They’ll then have to adjust their guidance to suit the new data. This is a flowing crisis. Not some decades long pandemic like HIV where you can give concrete advice.
I feel like I shouldn’t have to explain this to a 50 year old man. But he’ll never see it, cause he blocks my posts. It’s an honor really. Gotten to...:olo:
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:00 pm
by scared?
Blocking posts is a sure sign of being a bad person who can't deal with reality... Lol...
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:31 pm
by Captain
Or he's just a blockhead :olo:
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:34 pm
by xer0s
lol
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:51 pm
by YourGrandpa
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:55 pm
by YourGrandpa
vesp wrote:What, you mean you don't trust a graph edited in the Snipping tool from a "Covid Calculator" that lets you play around with your own numbers???
Maybe you just need an open mind to alternate sources of information.. :tard: :clownboat:
Or maybe you simply read the article and check some of the sources. :tard:
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:10 am
by Pext
wishful thinking:
vesp wrote:[lvlshot]https://miro.medium.com/max/2000/1*YO70xrW3oGLGZ9vL60YNeQ.png[/lvlshot]
reality:
[lvlshot]https://i.postimg.cc/T1thWyKg/new-cases.png[/lvlshot]
src: ny times
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:20 am
by Doombrain
Err, there’s a lag in deaths from new cases...
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 9:30 am
by vesp
YourGrandpa wrote:vesp wrote:What, you mean you don't trust a graph edited in the Snipping tool from a "Covid Calculator" that lets you play around with your own numbers???
Maybe you just need an open mind to alternate sources of information.. :tard: :clownboat:
Or maybe you simply read the article and check some of the sources. :tard:
it's not an article Gramps, it's a poorly stitched together collection of graphs and bad sources. Jesus christ.
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:00 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
everything is fine guys.
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:02 pm
by xer0s
Hehehe.....I’m in danger...
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:03 am
by Whiskey 7
Ferrao10 wrote:Fuck off.
Edit: they make like 9€/hour here. No, definitely not. I have been working as an audio/video/lighting- technician for the last 20 years without apprenticeship. That's what I'm thinking about.
Good luck then. I have NFI of your circumstances and I didn't mean to offend but thought it is (I suspect) easy and sometimes tax free income.
People will seemingly always need a haircut.
I was at our local barber the other day and had to wait for two before me. They were in the chair for look, maybe 10 minutes for $20ea. Some came in after me and yes I know that customers are not always forming a line at the door but it was quick cash in hand.
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:07 am
by Whiskey 7
Reported cases Worldwide
27 June 9,906,585
29 June 10,395,643
1 July 10,792,494
Total deaths
• World 518,037
• USA 130,785
• Brazil 60,713
Source #1 Source #2
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:52 am
by YourGrandpa
Doombrain wrote:Err, there’s a lag in deaths from new cases...
Really? :tard:
Your chart shows cases start to rise in early June. Considering there's a average 5 to 6 day incubation period and people are severely ill within a week of showing signs. It's now July and deaths per day continue downward.
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:53 am
by YourGrandpa
vesp wrote:it's not an article Gramps, it's a poorly stitched together collection of graphs and bad sources. Jesus christ.
So you think all of the 50+ sources are "bad". :rolleyes:
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:25 am
by xer0s
Suck it Gramps...
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamain ... le/2767980
Key Points
Question
Did more all-cause deaths occur during the first months of the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic in the United States compared with the same months during previous years?
Findings
In this cohort study, the number of deaths due to any cause increased by approximately 122 000 from March 1 to May 30, 2020, which is 28% higher than the reported number of COVID-19 deaths.
Meaning
Official tallies of deaths due to COVID-19 underestimate the full increase in deaths associated with the pandemic in many states.
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:29 am
by xer0s
Ya know, Gramps blocking my posts and not seeing the truth is the perfect analogy for him sticking his head in the sand and proving his confirmation bias...
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:12 am
by raw
Gramps lives north of the tri-county area where Covid-19 hasn't made it out of phase-1 restrictions due to how many cases there are in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach Counties. I can tell you from first-hand accounts that there are A LOT of folks here who don't give a flying fuck and were back to business as usual as soon as they could.
Businesses have taken little action to enforcement and we are literally on our own in this state as the Governor (Ron DeSantis) is in deep with the Trump ranks.
This entire thing has made me consider moving which is unfathomable for a native Floridian with ancestry as a Florida Pioneer. This state is corrupt.
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:27 pm
by xer0s
Damn, that sucks raw. Hang in there. I’m surrounded by a bunch of morons too. Unfortunately, I think they’re everywhere (yes, even outside the U.S.). Social media has dumbed down everyone, worldwide...
Re: no coronavirus thread ?
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:38 pm
by Κracus
raw wrote:Gramps lives north of the tri-county area where Covid-19 hasn't made it out of phase-1 restrictions due to how many cases there are in Dade, Broward, and Palm Beach Counties. I can tell you from first-hand accounts that there are A LOT of folks here who don't give a flying fuck and were back to business as usual as soon as they could.
Businesses have taken little action to enforcement and we are literally on our own in this state as the Governor (Ron DeSantis) is in deep with the Trump ranks.
This entire thing has made me consider moving which is unfathomable for a native Floridian with ancestry as a Florida Pioneer. This state is corrupt.
Ah yes Florida, Oh hey, Rick Scott, you ran a huge medicare scam? Here lets make you governor of the entire state. Seems like a great idea.