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Web design...

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:13 am
by FragaGeddon
What books can you recommend that would be good in learning web design. I'm also talking PHP,etc.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:18 am
by Dr_Watson
honestly, most of the html books are the same thing... just different author.
and with most programming language books its pretty much better to just goto the bookstore and flip through a few.
then pick the one that you like the best.
since they will all have the same information, just presented differently for different learning styles.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:20 am
by FragaGeddon
I want to redesign my brother-in-law's website and also want to add a shopping cart. Need to design one for my sister also and also add a shopping cart.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:25 am
by PhoeniX
I recommend http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/ as the shopping cart. It's free.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:25 am
by 4days
easier to look stuff up online, print it out if you have to.

off the top of my head:

http://www.php.net/docs.php
http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/css ... index.html
http://solidox.org/index.php?w=module:a ... view,id:11 (was looking at it a minute ago)
http://www.w3schools.com

got a few decent reference links at home, will post them up later if it's any help.

if you're just starting - then don't get into any bad habits. learn css NOW without arsing around with deprecated html tags. use an editor with syntax highlighting rather than an wysiwyg interface.

edit: just hit refresh and saw what you're planning - use a reliable out-of-the-box script (oscommerce/agora are okay) if you want to do shopping carts and so on.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:26 am
by 4days
PhoeniX wrote:I recommend http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/ as the shopping cart. It's free.
keen :)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:49 pm
by FragaGeddon
PhoeniX wrote:I recommend http://www.zen-cart.com/modules/frontpage/ as the shopping cart. It's free.
I'll have a good look at that, thanks.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 1:13 pm
by FragaGeddon
Going to have to learn about image design also.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:14 pm
by denzii
http://www.oswd.org

This site was turned on to me by someone here.

Has a bunch of cool web templates.

edit: oops

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:38 pm
by sirstrongbad
hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:48 pm
by losCHUNK
sirstrongbad wrote:hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems
thumbing through the book ? :P

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:01 pm
by Pauly
You need a degree in nerdism

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:06 pm
by sirstrongbad
losCHUNK wrote:
sirstrongbad wrote:hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems
thumbing through the book ? :P
thumbing through the book? sometimes. those cookbooks have solutions for a lot of everyday issues that developers face. if you're looking for a login script, for example, the PHP Cookbook has examples that you can use. if you're trying to figure out how to build a tab-based navigation system in CSS, the CSS Cookbook has code examples for that, too.

all in all, i think they're great books to help get a person up and running quickly. :shrug:

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:07 pm
by sirstrongbad
Pauly wrote:You need a degree in nerdism
already have one. i'm a recent graduate of the IU School of Informatics. doesn't get much "nerdier" than that. :p

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:08 pm
by FragaGeddon
Thanks SSB. Will check those out.

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:09 pm
by sirstrongbad
np, sir :)

Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 6:27 pm
by mik0rs
sirstrongbad wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
sirstrongbad wrote:hey frag,

the o'reilly books are really the best choice for quality and relevance. when it comes to web languages, i use (on a regular basis), PHP Cookbook, CSS Cookbook, and MySQL cookbook all from O'Reilly. you can find them on Amazon used for very cheap.

there are numerous online repositories that can help you, as well:

<a href='http://php.net' target='_blank'>www.php.net</a> complete documentation for PHP
<a href='http://groups.google.com' target='_blank'>google groups</a> best for searching for quick fixes to numerous programming problems
thumbing through the book ? :P
thumbing through the book? sometimes. those cookbooks have solutions for a lot of everyday issues that developers face. if you're looking for a login script, for example, the PHP Cookbook has examples that you can use. if you're trying to figure out how to build a tab-based navigation system in CSS, the CSS Cookbook has code examples for that, too.

all in all, i think they're great books to help get a person up and running quickly. :shrug:
Got to agree, most of the books O'Reilly put out are good quality. The only exception to that was "Programming ASP.NET" which I've got, the rest have been great.