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Firefly
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 12:30 pm
by Grudge
So, I just saw the first episode. Pretty good. At first I thought this western/sci-fi mix would be kinda dorky, but it works pretty well. I guess I'll be spending the rest of the afternoon watching the rest of the first season.
Am I wrong, or did they only make one season? (plus the movie)
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2005 2:31 pm
by Pauly
It's an excellent series.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:28 pm
by RRROOOAAARRR
riddla wrote:I hope they figure out a decent way to bring the series back to TV, although after the movie it wont quite be the same...
Well, there'll be two less cast members, for starters...
...and Firefly (and the movie) rocked. Here's to them bringing it back.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:32 pm
by Don Carlos
Your not round enough sir
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 3:33 pm
by glossy
They just mentioned it on the ExtraLife podcast i'm listening to, but i've never heard of it.
there is some random english anime show on SBS on thursday nights which talks about terrorism and i think it's hilarious.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:00 pm
by dnoyc
riddla wrote:They aired 11 before cancellation, but made 14. If you've got the DVD set watch the extras, they explain the whole FOX debacle.
they aired 9.
Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2005 5:30 pm
by Foo
Fox networks is all about cancelling good shows.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:20 am
by [xeno]Julios
welp just finished watching the movie. Praps a bit heavy on the cheese at times but otherwise i thought it was brilliant.
i'm really glad i watched the series first tho... the series threw you into the universe without spoonfeeding you its history or that of its characters. You slowly got to know it.
the movie added some depth to the story while continuing the plot that the series started.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 10:42 am
by Geebs
I've read a bit about the premises of the plot and it sounds like the sort of thing you need to be a trekkie to enjoy. Am I right?
--- not a trekkie
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:32 pm
by Dek
Geebs wrote:I've read a bit about the premises of the plot and it sounds like the sort of thing you need to be a trekkie to enjoy. Am I right?
--- not a trekkie
nope.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:41 pm
by Ryoki
I saw most of one episode and decided it wasn't for me.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:41 pm
by Deathshroud
I've got the first 2 discs of this show queued up on Netflix. I'm looking foward to checkin em out!
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:45 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
i skimmed over the first ep... i'm going to sit down tonight and watch em..
btw, they only aried 9 ep's?!
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:46 pm
by Doombrain
How come the film was called serenity? I saw the film and really liked it.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 3:47 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
NO clue, But the first ep is known as serenity.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:34 pm
by chiQ
I'm rationing Firefly to myself, and then when I've watched them all I'm going to see Serenity. I can't believe they canned this series. Joss Whedon is a freaking genius.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:41 pm
by Pauly
chiQ wrote: I can't believe they canned this series. Joss Whedon is a freaking genius.
I have been saying this for years. Years!
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:21 pm
by [xeno]Julios
is buffy even half as good as firefly? the thing that blew me away in firefly was the writing - it was almost poetic at times.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:30 pm
by Pauly
The early seasons of Buffy are just really enjoyable fluff. It aint Shakespeare. There are some classic episodes that are written and directed by Whedon, but basically by season 5 it was getting a little shit. If you ever get a chance, download the episode called 'Hush'. It's excellent.
Angel was also very good, but both suffered by being restrcited by a TV network and having to appeal to a younger audience, whereas Firefly was more adult and as a result, far better.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 6:31 pm
by chiQ
[xeno]Julios wrote:is buffy even half as good as firefly? the thing that blew me away in firefly was the writing - it was almost poetic at times.
Buffy is more slapstick/silly, and contextually very different. I'm not sure you can compare the two at all really. I love both, but for different reasons. The only consistent traits across both universes is the humour, the solid characterisations, and the escapist element. Other than that it's present day Ca with monsters vs. space in the vague future.
And yes, a lot of the scripting is brilliant.
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:50 pm
by Grudge
I saw an episode of Angel last week (the only one I've seen) and it was pure shit. Any Firefly episode is ages ahead.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 4:59 am
by AmIdYfReAk
jesus! 1hour 40 min first ep!
that was a movie within itsself! i can only think of the movie only being another ep!
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:13 am
by [xeno]Julios
no the movie's quite different from the episodes. It's got more of a complete narrative than each episode.
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:09 am
by neh
really enjoyed the film - shame the series was canned - presumably it didnt havae enough teenage angst or someshit
Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 8:23 am
by [xeno]Julios
comment from imdb:
As with BtVS, the world is divided into people who get Firefly and people who don't. In this series Joss Whedon created one of the most realistic post-war visions of the future ever committed to tape, that at the same time spoke about yesterday and today. Maybe a little too much today for its own good.
The series is anti-corporate, anti-government and, while it takes the stand that some things are worth fighting for, it is largely anti-war. No wonder FOX did everything in its power to kill it off, including airing episodes out of order, skipping weeks after airing only three eps and, inevitably canceling the show without even airing episodes 12, 13 and 14 (out of 15). This was particularly damaging, as Firefly had a greater sense of ongoing plot than any other Whedon series in its first year. Viewers were left wondering, on more than one occasion, when a character would reference something we hadn't seen yet.
The backstage dramatics aside, Firefly is intelligent and, like Buffy, mythic - except this time Whedon is dealing with the myth of America: the Frontier, the Civil War, the rise of the Corporation, etc . . .
Firefly is a demanding show. It asks its audience to appreciate the shades of grey in its characters' moral scale. The villains are not comfortingly dressed as an alien race. In 500 years mankind will still be its own worst enemy. Technology will be in the hands of a privileged few, and others will in "The Black" - Whedon's frontier third world - where it is possible to exist without the interference (or benefit) of civilization and government. Things will be dirty, and used. Firefly creates a universe that almost totally opposes that of (that bastion of television sci-fi) Star Trek: its Federation-like central power (the Alliance) is interpreted as being oppressive and dystopic. We are on the side of those who resisted (like the Maqui) and lost.
The acting is strong, the writing as excellent, funny and moving as on any Whedon show, and the effects and sets create a consistent, believable world. It is a shame the series didn't have a more hospitable environment in which to grow and become all it could have been.