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In a name like "Abraham Van Helsing", what's the "van" part called?

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A middle name? :icon16:

Is there even a name for that in english, since it's mostly found in non english names?

It's like Charles of Whales

I think I would call it 'unnecessary'

Pext wrote:It's like Charles of Whales

Yea, isn't it usually an article, like "of" or "from"?

I don't know, that's just what I always assumed.

van Helsing
de Sade
von Richthofen

it's all the same

Good day my friends.

I am not that great at history but I read somewhere that in the
Modern Time, most people were using only one name…e.g. Peter.

Than, in the beginning of the Contemporary Epoch, under Napoleon,
He required that everyone ad a surname to it’s name. Using it from
The village they lived or type of work they are doing and even from
Common objects. Thus Peter van Montreal Is the same as Peter from
Montreal or Peter of Montreal or Peter of the Montreal City.

So try Imagining what you would use as your surname.

Take Care!
Pete

Eraser wrote:In a name like "Abraham Van Helsing", what's the "van" part called?

well, in dutchee its part of the last name, so it doesnt have a specific name. so there

Pext wrote:van Helsing
de Sade
von Richthofen

it's all the same

Shouldn't Eraser know this since he's dutch?

What about Van Morrison then?

What does Van mean there?

Van is his first name. Like Van Wylder.

well if i'm here, AND you're here, doen't that make it "our" time?

CaseDogg wrote:well if i'm here, AND you're here, doen't that make it "our" time?

You in the right thread here?

o shit, my bad.

lol. just checking man, i thought i was just confused.

yeah, im tryin ta quake and post at the same time, my multitasking is a lil off right now. =)))

MKJ wrote:

Eraser wrote:In a name like "Abraham Van Helsing", what's the "van" part called?

well, in dutchee its part of the last name, so it doesnt have a specific name. so there

wrong....its called 'voorvoegsel'

dmmh wrote:

MKJ wrote:

Eraser wrote:In a name like "Abraham Van Helsing", what's the "van" part called?

well, in dutchee its part of the last name, so it doesnt have a specific name. so there

wrong....its called 'voorvoegsel'

I thought "tussenvoegsel"?

Every word that has "voegsel" in it sounds really sexual and funny to me.

By the way:
The german "von" ("van" is dutch) always indicates nobility.
"van" and "de" do not afaik.

So "Pete" is a little off there. It's not just some ordinary last name, at least not over here.

dmmh wrote:

MKJ wrote:

Eraser wrote:In a name like "Abraham Van Helsing", what's the "van" part called?

well, in dutchee its part of the last name, so it doesnt have a specific name. so there

wrong....its called 'voorvoegsel'

oh right yea
nu je het zegt

I can tell you where it comes from.

Good evening my friends

SplishSplash is right about the von indicates nobility.
That has nothing to do with van, only sound a bit the same,
so people tend to think it's the same for german.
Also, van now is widely used, not only in dutch and is becoming
more and more a first name.

Thanks for the precision SplishSplash.
And BTW...Also thanks for the link about building
my website.
http://www.oswd.org
I even referred it to redfella Entrepreneurs? Topic

Take Care!
Pete