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Nologic

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:20 pm
by Tormentius
Quit whining at people in private messages. If you've got a problem with the way this place is run then either take it up with the admins (Raw or Doomer) or post your issues here out in the open.

Oh and heres a mirror for the scripts you took down in the midst of your tantrum:
http://www.gibwars.org/files/Nologic_Q4_v0.31_Beta.rar

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2005 11:23 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
iow he went home but couldn't take his ball with him.


also his scripts are copyrighted? yeah right :olo:

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 2:08 am
by Nologic
hmm matter fact they are.

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.html
Copyright protection subsists from the time the work is created in fixed form. The copyright in the work of authorship immediately becomes the property of the author who created the work.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:12 am
by shaft
so sue him :olo:

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 3:45 am
by Massive Quasars
Keep an eye on this. It could go Dukeward.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 4:44 am
by Nologic
If I was to sue him it would be in Bellevue District of King County, Washington since this is where I live...home of Microsoft....not really a good place for disputing whether or not one has broken copyright law.

Silly as it may seem...my argument is valid.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:03 am
by seremtan
it's only right that i register my status as non-caring observer of the epic legal struggle taking place in this thread :icon14:

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:24 am
by Dark Metal
I win. End of arguement.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 5:28 am
by Scourge
Jeezus guy, it's just a fucking q4 script. It's not like it's actual programming or anything.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:25 am
by Tormentius
Nologic wrote:If I was to sue him it would be in Bellevue District of King County, Washington since this is where I live...home of Microsoft....not really a good place for disputing whether or not one has broken copyright law.

Silly as it may seem...my argument is valid.
I'm in Vancouver, Canada so please feel free to sue me :olo:

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:37 am
by Canis
Oddly enough, scripts are just sequences of built-in commands, each calling copyrighted code that was engineered and previously copyrighted by other folks (raven and idsoftware). You just sequenced these code routines, and as such are using someone else's copyrighted material.

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:44 pm
by Nologic
Even odder is the fact that your gibberish while likely to rally the fool hardy…does nothing to discount my claim of copyright, to what I have created.

I do not argue whether or not Raven or id hold copyright to the base commands or variables, only that I hold copyright on my works based upon them…or are you going to argue that modification authors and map designers have no rights to their works as well?


Tormentius –

Canada...well that’s good to hear since more than likely you will have to show up in court. Since Canada does recognize most of the United States laws regarding copyright. So it should be a good 4 hour drive down I-5 for you, each day of the trial. :)

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 11:57 pm
by seremtan
fucking hell :olo:

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:38 am
by Foo
Lol yeah, but what's your actual point? You're not going to persue it right or wrong, so who cares?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:40 am
by shaft
As you can see Nologic script's are just a ripoff of some of my earlier works. Which I hold a copyright on. Any futher claims by Nologic that this is his own work will be dealt with, to teh full extent of the law. Nologic, if you continue to pass this work off as your own im afraid I will have to take you to court.

For those of you that want the genuine thing, without further ado, here is shaft's ultimate script package, uber gamma version.

http://home.comcast.net/~shaft01/shaft_ ... _gamma.rar

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:10 am
by Nologic
I have asked, I have warned…niceties are over.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:18 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Nologic wrote:I have asked, I have warned…niceties are over.
LOL

you seriously are one of the biggest idiots to grace this board in a while. No mean feat. I salute you and thank you for the laughs you've provided.

oh and I think you need to look into copyright as it pertains to scripting within a commercial product. do you think someone can make a mod for quake 4 and charge money for it without id's consent?

HAHAHAHA you have lost

duke wannabe

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:18 am
by shaft
I'm warning you Nologic!
Image

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:19 am
by Foo
Ohshit. Niceties are over.

What a cunt :olo:

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:55 am
by Tormentius
Nologic wrote:

Tormentius –

Canada...well that’s good to hear since more than likely you will have to show up in court. Since Canada does recognize most of the United States laws regarding copyright. So it should be a good 4 hour drive down I-5 for you, each day of the trial. :)
I'm not sure if you're aware but in major criminal cases there is still a lengthy extradition process (which oftentimes fails) in order to press charges across international lines. For a small civil case based on a script (using common methods and standards) that isn't even covered under copyright you'd just get laughed at. Then again, thats something you're probably pretty used to in life.

By all means step up and sue me :olo:

http://www.gibwars.org/f...logic_Q4_v0.31_Beta.rar

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:14 am
by Canis
Nologic wrote:Even odder is the fact that your gibberish while likely to rally the fool hardy…does nothing to discount my claim of copyright, to what I have created.

I do not argue whether or not Raven or id hold copyright to the base commands or variables, only that I hold copyright on my works based upon them…or are you going to argue that modification authors and map designers have no rights to their works as well?


Tormentius –

Canada...well that’s good to hear since more than likely you will have to show up in court. Since Canada does recognize most of the United States laws regarding copyright. So it should be a good 4 hour drive down I-5 for you, each day of the trial. :)
You're really going to run this through the ground, arent you? :D Basically, you are not going to sue a damn soul, and everyone here knows that. You are powerless and pathetic, and your claims of righteousness are going to fall on deaf ears because of your stupidity and ignorance.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 5:20 am
by Canis
[lvlshot]http://pages.prodigy.net/ramingus/Hooked.jpg[/lvlshot]

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 7:40 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
well here it is, the reason Nologic (so apt a nick) doesn't have a leg to stand on.

from the q4 licensing agreement...

1. Grant of License. Subject to the terms and provisions of this Agreement and so long as you fully comply at all times with this Agreement, Id Software grants to you the non-exclusive and limited right to use the Software only in executable or object code form. The term "Software" includes all elements of the Software, including, without limitation, data files and screen displays. You are not receiving any ownership or proprietary right, title, or interest in or to the Software or the copyrights, trademarks, or other rights related thereto.


so yeah I guess I just saved you that consultation fee with your lawyer.

have i mentioned you're a stupid sucky prick?

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 9:56 am
by Nologic
riddla you want to inform him or shall I?

I guess I will....I don't own the game first off...so said license was never seen...nor agreed to by me.

Secondly...that is strictly for the software its self...not any other creative works independant of it.

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 10:43 am
by busetibi
you sir,
are a fuckwit.