Quake3World

I know it was mentioned in another thread but I thought this warranted it's own.

I'll have it up on our server in about 30 mins.

http://www.q4max.com

Hurrah, the more servers the better. :icon26:

Server's up and running:

67.19.62.215:28004

Remember though guys, I run about 16 custom maps so you need to get those from my site before you can get in.

If you get the "You're missing fileS" error and you're confident that you have Q4MAX 0.71 installed properly, you need to go to the downloads page on uzaclan.net and make sure you have ALL of those maps. I usually keeop up with the beta's to so you need to make sure you have the latest of the files (For example, my map_l4dm2.pk4 is actually Monsoon Beta 2 but yours may be beta 1 hence you'd still get the error.

I love it so far. Gonna get on there and play around a bit.

It's FFA by default but feel free to try different modes if you'd like.

The updating of the maps was all it needed. *sigh* All better now.

Cyas on there sometime.

Gah. RAVEN!!!!!!

AUTODOWNLOAD.

FIX.

CRITICAL. Not browser critical, not xbox multithread critical. FUCKING MP CRITICAL.

kthxdie

/kill

but..whats with the speed?
It's really slow.... :icon27:

did i miss something?

reefsurfer wrote:but..whats with the speed?
It's really slow.... :icon27:

did i miss something?

Listen servers do not work, online your speed should be fine. Offline, pm_speed 320 should fix it.

whats the console cmd?
is it: pm_speed 320
but it dosent work after i created a listen one?

Yeah pm_speed should fix it on the listen end. 4th line of the changelog for q4max, do not use listen servers

Just want to say.

CA + Vertex + Smoothness = Sweet.

Q4Max has made the game what it should have been in the first place. Nearly 3hrs of CA on dm9, bloodwork, edge, good times and smooth as can be. Soooo good. :icon25:

EDIT: And another thing. Auto demo. So nice. So nice.

I seriously hope like hell everything Q4Max has done gets in the patch. And if not everything then atleast Vertex, its pure gold.

yea, q4max would be fucking awsome...if any EURO servers without 30 different "missing files" errors would popup. :icon14:

I know I am a little late in this discussion, but I just downloaded Q4Max the other day. I really like this mod. It still has a few bugs and kinks like vanilla Q4, but I think for people who are having a difficult time getting into regular Q4, they will like this mod MUCH MUCH better. I never disliked Q4, but I really enjoy Q4Max more. It emulates 3W more in its physics and play; it is easier (at least for me) than regular Q4 which is a bit clunky.

I also wanted to say that I played on the uZa clan server. They have an awesome server! A few of my clan mates and I went and played on it. We all had a great time because the uZa clan server is so smooth. I added their clan server to my favorites in ASE!
-]Rx[- is even thinking about converting our Q4 server to a Q4Max server. I've started encouraging other 3W players who hated Q4 vanilla to try out Q4Max. We'll see how many we can convert. :icon25:

Q4Max = VQ4 only how it is when you have smooth framerates. There are no physics tweaks whatsoever.

ALL baseq4 servers should go over to Q4Max imo, there is no reason not to unless you have some sick hatred of brightskins.

jester! wrote:Q4Max = VQ4 only how it is when you have smooth framerates. There are no physics tweaks whatsoever.

ALL baseq4 servers should go over to Q4Max imo, there is no reason not to unless you have some sick hatred of brightskins.

You realize that some server admins and players like VQ4, right?

What does VQ4 have that Q4Max doesnt? Other then a vastly lower average framerate for their players? Less potential game modes? Forced view bobbing due to many server admins not having the knowledge or care to change it?

What meaningful argument is there against using Q4Max or XBM vs VQ4?

Pros for Q4Max
Vertex = Serious FPS gain.
View Bob Client Side Toggle = People who get motion sickness can play again!
CA, Insta, ATDM.
Chat Tokens.
Brightskins.
Different HUDs so you can actually see what ammo you have.

Pros for VQ4
???

What do players and server operators lose by using Q4Max or XBM?

Nothing that I can see so please enlighten me.

jester! wrote:What does VQ4 have that Q4Max doesnt? Other then a vastly lower average framerate for their players? Less potential game modes? Forced view bobbing due to many server admins not having the knowledge or care to change it?

What meaningful argument is there against using Q4Max or XBM vs VQ4?

Because some people don't share your obsessive need to whine and don't want to run a mod. If you don't enjoy VQ4 then fine play whatever mod you'd like, but don't expect everyone to share that opinion.

rofl where is the whine?!

I state that Q4Max is in every way vq4's equal or superior and that there is no reason to not use it. You state that some people prefer it, I ask for why, you say I have an obsessive need to whine.

oooooooook. :icon32:

Honestly, my complaints have been.

1. Raven doesnt provide nearly enough interaction.
2. The Sound sucks.
3. The client-server file issue, and autodownload issue, should have been fixed in week one.

Thats really about it especially since I got a new vid card, and q4max has come along.

Just for you heres an actual whine that has nothing to do with the actual playability of the game.

When you have the gaunt out, you dont punch like in q3, you run around like an idiot with your arm out, nobody runs like that.

/whine 0

Just for you torm.

jester! wrote:rofl where is the whine?!

I state that Q4Max is in every way vq4's equal or superior and that there is no reason to not use it. You state that some people prefer it, I ask for why, you say I have an obsessive need to whine.

oooooooook. :icon32:

Not everyone plays OSP or other mods on Q3 either, becase some people like both stock games and didn't want to play a modded version. As for the whining, its a reference to your apparent need to snivel about Q4 every chance you get.

Edit: To address your edited points, those things couldn't be "fixed in week 1". FFS, there are business decisions to be made, budgets to be allocated, dev teams to set to work, and then QA testing before it can be released. You're not taking into account that Raven is a business, and this game also involves Activision and ID. In my experience, anytime an outside business is involved, let alone two, decision making and communications both slow to a crawl.

Currently, the argument for not using the mod is the autodownload bug.

That's about it. Much like OSP, once it's transparent on the server side (OSP can be 'invisible' and run to look like baseq3 if desired) then there is no reason not to use it if it enhances functionality without changing gameplay.

Fine, play the stock game, I did put the little 'imo' up there just for you really because I realize that you have an apparent dislike for nearly every one of my posts and count on you to come in and counter whine nearly all of them. :icon26:

You seem to believe the game should be played 'as it was meant to be played' as if the devs know whats best, thats great, but OSP, and now Q4Max take nothing out of the base game so I just cant see the logic of your descision, and since all you can apparently do is whine about my whining I probably wont any time soon either.

Tormentius wrote:
Edit: To address your edited points, those things couldn't be "fixed in week 1". FFS, there are business decisions to be made, budgets to be allocated, dev teams to set to work, and then QA testing before it can be released. You're not taking into account that Raven is a business, and this game also involves Activision and ID. In my experience, anytime an outside business is involved, let alone two, decision making and communications both slow to a crawl. [/color]

And yet they have time to bring in yet another party, intel, and put out 2 beta patches? Yeah 1 week was an exaggeration, how about 1 month, 2? No? All good I guess right... :icon32:

Foo wrote:Currently, the argument for not using the mod is the autodownload bug.

That's about it. Much like OSP, once it's transparent on the server side (OSP can be 'invisible' and run to look like baseq3 if desired) then there is no reason not to use it if it enhances functionality without changing gameplay.

Some server admins and players don't feel the need to Foo, just as there are many VQ3 servers around still. Q4Max is a mod (read choice), not a requirement to play.

To put this in perspective, I run a Q4Max and a Q4W server but still enjoy playing VQ4 on a couple of other servers simply because the stock game isn't bad either.

Tormentius wrote:
To put this in perspective, I run a Q4Max and a Q4W server but still enjoy playing VQ4 on a couple of other servers simply because the stock game isn't bad either.[/color]

Fine torm, but what is it that is different about VQ4 that Q4Max cannot provide for you?

2 servers, identical pings, identical player counts, identical game modes, why would you pick the vq4 one over q4max thats all im wondering.

EDIT: Im not saying vq4 is bad, simply what would make you choose it if you had the option?

jester! wrote:
And yet they have time to bring in yet another party, intel, and put out 2 beta patches? Yeah 1 week was an exaggeration, how about 1 month, 2? No? All good I guess right... :icon32:

Those patches were most likely well underway already.

Tormentius wrote:Some server admins and players don't feel the need to Foo, just as there are many VQ3 servers around still. Q4Max is a mod (read choice), not a requirement to play.

To put this in perspective, I run a Q4Max and a Q4W server but still enjoy playing VQ4 on a couple of other servers simply because the stock game isn't bad either.

I don't follow, in terms of the game is Q4max any different?

I thought all the changes like brightskins etc are voteable. Therefore it defaults to be played just like the original game?

Pretty sure brightskins arent votable, maybe they are but I have never seen them off...