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Router problems
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:25 am
by Guest
I have a D-Link DI-524C router and my download speed has been hurt massively by it. My dl speed has been recently upped from 6.5mbps to 10mbps and without the router I dl at about 1.15mb/s, but with it I dl at 100-500kb/s, so theres a problem with it. I have the latest router firmware and my computer is in the DMZ. No spyware or anything on my comp... The router is set to 100mbps and is connected by a wire to my comp. It associates the IP by DHCP. Any ideas?
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:50 am
by shadd_
some nics need to be manaully set to 100 mbps. it may be setting itself properly from the modem but not the router.
Re: Router problems
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:23 am
by Silicone_Milk
riddla wrote:ToxicBug wrote:my computer is in the DMZ.
another comedy gold moment

Toxic, get your computer out of DMZ... NOW
you shouldn't be running in DMZ under any circumstances.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 4:46 pm
by Foo
No, I don't follow your reasoning:
1. If he's in the DMZ then his router is forwarding all the ports he needs.
2. If he's tested without the router that rules out his PC configuration.
I don't have a lead on what could be causing his problem, but that shouldn't prevent me trying to steer the conversation away from needless flames over something irrelevant and back to the matter at hand.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 5:31 pm
by Guest
I'm doing a speed test here to check my connection:
http://testvitesse.videotron.ca/
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:36 pm
by Foo
So what you're saying is that a DMZ is functionless and you have no idea why manufacturers include it?
I mean, surely you understand the function of it and why it's there, so unless there's some magical reason TB wouldn't want to take advantage of those reasons, I still have absolutely no idea why you chose to single out such a completely irrelevant and unremarkable piece of information and try and use it as a tool of ridicule.
Much less why you chose to do that in T&T.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:42 pm
by Guest
So does anyone know what might be causing the problem? I called D-Link tech support today and the tech guy couldn't help me, so a higher level tech will call me tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 9:20 pm
by ^misantropia^
riddla wrote:foo, running in the dmz is 100% unnecessary with any router capable of NAT / port forwarding.
It is if you have a router that can't deal with high volume traffic / lots of connections, randomly reassigns ports, etc.
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:08 pm
by Guest
Tormentius wrote:ToxicBug wrote:So does anyone know what might be causing the problem? I called D-Link tech support today and the tech guy couldn't help me, so a higher level tech will call me tomorrow.
What were the results of the download test without the router? And with? Test both and post your results.
without: 1000kb/s
with: 350kb/s
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:02 pm
by Doombrain
what's DMZ?
I'm getting a wifi router soon and i can't be bothered with shit d/l speeds.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 2:58 pm
by ^misantropia^
The DeMilitarized Zone. Effectively disables the router's firewall for the DMZ'ed PC.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:58 pm
by Doombrain
so this is a no brainer. use the hardware firewall your router comes with and make sure there are no issues with the firmware before buying.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:37 pm
by Guest
PieceMaker wrote:ToxicBug wrote:Tormentius wrote:
What were the results of the download test without the router? And with? Test both and post your results.
without: 1000kb/s
with: 350kb/s
What exactly are you downloading? What file? Are you using some p2p program?
Can this problem be repeated with any file downloaded off the internet?
As for Foo and the comments he has some validity to the jumping on ToxicBug just because.
BUT I saw the very same thing in the Q4 forum with the script thread
that you yourself, Foo, Jumped in and had your fun.
No matter how little an interaction you had in that nologic fun you did
the very same thing you're bitching about here. Period.
ToxicBug I hope you've heard something helpful from D-Link?

Like I've already posted, I'm doing a speed test here to check my connection:
http://testvitesse.videotron.ca/
its 11:37 and the d-link person tech was supposed to call me at 11...
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:48 pm
by PieceMaker
ToxicBug wrote:Like I've already posted, I'm doing a speed test here to check my connection:
http://testvitesse.videotron.ca/
its 11:37 and the d-link person tech was supposed to call me at 11...
Ok. Missed that . Was going thru the posts and figured you were
just complaining about a lower download speed even though your ISP upped the speed.
Good luck on that tech guy calling on time though. Give him another 2 hours or so. LoL!
Anyways. Good luck on this.
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:39 pm
by Tormentius
TB, has the Dlink tech called you yet?
Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:11 pm
by Guest
Tormentius wrote: TB, has the Dlink tech called you yet?
No, fuck that motherfucker, I'll have to call those cunts tomorrow. PS its 15:10 right now and I have to leave for school.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:18 am
by SOAPboy
riddla wrote:^misantropia^ wrote:riddla wrote:foo, running in the dmz is 100% unnecessary with any router capable of NAT / port forwarding.
It is if you have a router that can't deal with high volume traffic / lots of connections, randomly reassigns ports, etc.
No soho router
ever made should fit this description, otherwise it has serious probems. Perhaps it needs a re-flashing of the firmware and then needs to be properly configured with the pc out of the DMZ and behind NAT where it truly belongs.
Long story short - set up the router as it states in the instruction book, then give your machine a static IP in the same subnet after all is said and done. Then you can do proper port forwarding to that static IP. A client IP reservation by mac address works too if your router supports it. The goal for port forwarding is to always have the same IP address on the machine being forwarded to.
Again, you might as well ditch the router altogether if you insist on using the DMZ feature with your lone workstation. DMZ is meant mainly for security-hardened systems, i.e. dedicated FTP and email servers which typically need to have a range of random ports to work with.
DMZ is nice.. simply because some routers only allow 10 ports to be forwarded..
Not useless :P
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:26 am
by raw
Did you try replacing the cables at all? You could have a bad CAT5/6 cable which is causing poor performance.
The fact of the matter is he has a 10mbps connection and any ethernet port can handle that speed easily. If he's having performance problems, I'd check cabling first, and then try to tweak the MTU settings. If that doesn't work, I'd buy a new router and test it. If it works, you had a bad router.
On the topic of the DMZ, it is bad practice to use it because it leaves you 100% open to being vulnerable since every port is open on your machine. It totally circumvents the entire idea behind having a hardware firewall.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 1:42 am
by SOAPboy
raw wrote:
On the topic of the DMZ, it is bad practice to use it because it leaves you 100% open to being vulnerable since every port is open on your machine. It totally circumvents the entire idea behind having a hardware firewall.
Some people dont have a router to act as a firewall.. they have it to split there internet and nothing more.. :P
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:25 am
by +JuggerNaut+
SOAPboy wrote:raw wrote:
On the topic of the DMZ, it is bad practice to use it because it leaves you 100% open to being vulnerable since every port is open on your machine. It totally circumvents the entire idea behind having a hardware firewall.
Some people dont have a router to act as a firewall.. they have it to split there internet and nothing more.. :P
becoz they b dum
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:10 pm
by ilumos
DMZing a PC is fine as long as it has a solid software firewall on it.
On the subject of poor speeds due to CAT5, I used a RJ45 cable that just had the 8 wires flat in the sleeve, didnt get over 10kB/s download with that. Switched to twisted pair, and got full 300kB/s.
Amazing how much crosstalk can hamper speeds.
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:24 pm
by Guest
Heh I reset my router setting to default and everything is working fine now

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:10 pm
by Guest
Btw D-Link called me on the next day and twice today. I wasn't home, but they left messages. I guess they're feeling guilty.
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:40 pm
by Tormentius
ToxicBug wrote:Btw D-Link called me on the next day and twice today. I wasn't home, but they left messages. I guess they're feeling guilty.
No, they're just logging the fact they attempted to close the trouble ticket.
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:56 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Tormentius wrote:ToxicBug wrote:Btw D-Link called me on the next day and twice today. I wasn't home, but they left messages. I guess they're feeling guilty.
No, they're just logging the fact they attempted to close the trouble ticket.
ding.