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Networking two pc's

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:21 am
by Scourge
I've got 2 pcs, each with nics, and a Linksys NH1005 5-port hub. When I connect them together I get the limited or no connectivity alert. Both are running XP home SP2, one patched to sp2, the other original sp2 disc.

I know there is an issue with sp2 and networking like this. I've done some googling on it, but can't seem to find a solution. I've tried setting an ip for both and opening ports to no avail. My question is, is anyone familiar with this problem and know a workaround?

edit: I can give more specs if needed.

edit2: I have went through the XP connection setup wizard and set the same network name for both pcs and did all the needed sharing.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:28 am
by AmIdYfReAk
assign the computers IP's on the same subnet for both, and they will be able to talk to eachother man..

:)

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:31 am
by Scourge
I did that, they connect but it is very slow. I can play q3 between the two but if I try to transfer a file it's slower than dialup.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:30 am
by Kills On Site
Try disabling the Windows Firewall, that might stop your problems

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:32 am
by Scourge
Done that too. Downloaded a VPN sp2 patch that got rid of the limited conn. message but now when I have Windows Explorer open it hangs and I get a Dr.Watson error. I'll try transferring a flie again and get the exact error and the error file if possible.

edit: I tried running them with no firewalls on either machine.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:54 am
by Scourge
Strange, no error this time. Took about 10 minutes to transfer a 32 mb file.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:01 am
by Scourge
Oh, and this one locked up after I disconnected the two and connected this one back to the internet.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:23 am
by +JuggerNaut+
i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 2:13 pm
by Scourge
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.
I wasn't drinking and I don't drink coffee.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 7:50 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
you said that they are hooked up between a hub right?

is the collision Light lighting up when it is sending?

have you tryed connecting a crossover cable instead of a Straight through -> hub -> straight through?

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 8:20 pm
by Scourge
AmIdYfReAk wrote:you said that they are hooked up between a hub right?

is the collision Light lighting up when it is sending?

have you tryed connecting a crossover cable instead of a Straight through -> hub -> straight through?
I haven't tried a crossover cable yet. There is no collision light on this hub. It only has lights for power, indicating connection, and another light telling you if it's running at 100 mb.

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 9:40 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
scourge34 wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.
I wasn't drinking and I don't drink coffee.
all lies :tear:

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:44 pm
by Scourge
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
scourge34 wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:i think you should put the beer down and try again after a cup of coffee in the morning.
I wasn't drinking and I don't drink coffee.
all lies :tear:
No, the sad truth is that I'm just a confused amatuer networker. :(

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 3:52 am
by Scourge
One more thing. I can connect the hub between this pc and the cable modem and it connects to the internet at full speed. When I get a chance I will get a crossover cable and try that.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 5:03 am
by YourGrandpa
Get rid of the hub and get a switch or router.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 7:29 am
by Tormentius

File transfers are most likely slow because you're hooking up two PCs to the hub and the modem to the hub. If so, the PCs are probably getting live IPs.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 8:54 am
by +JuggerNaut+
aye, good point.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 10:17 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
i was going off of the thaught that it was Comp -> hub -> comp...

Not Comp -> hub -> innernet
Comp ->

Clarity would be key. :)

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 11:05 pm
by Oeloe
DSL Modems often have integrated router functionality which isn't always that great. Connecting a DSL modem+router to my 3-computer network (all connected to an 8-port switch) gives terrible lag when i try to play a local game of CPMa. VQ3 lags less but on some maps it still gets jerky. So i suppose it's the cheap integrated router that messes up my Q3 LAN games?

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 12:30 am
by +JuggerNaut+
you rarely should have to be tweaking any MTU settings for a simple file sharing network. i blame the cruddy hub.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:26 am
by Scourge
Tormentius wrote:
File transfers are most likely slow because you're hooking up two PCs to the hub and the modem to the hub. If so, the PCs are probably getting live IPs.
I guess I confused the explanation. When I hooked the two pcs there was no modem in there anywhere. I tested the hub by putting it between one pc and the cable modem connected to the internet. Also, when I try to connect the two pcs, I'm not trying to connect to the internet in any way.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i was going off of the thaught that it was Comp -> hub -> comp...



Clarity would be key. :)
Yeah, that's what I have.

Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:45 am
by Scourge
riddla wrote:in that case one of the two PCs may indeed need to use a x-over.
I'll head over to the local store this weekend and grab one. May go ahead and grab a router as well. May put both on the internet. I'll report back when I have something to report one way or the other. Thanks for all the help guys. :)