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Config ?
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:58 pm
by Eddie
Does anybody here have a config to get as much FPS as you can. I dont want it to look to crappy but also want it to look somewhat nice to. I have an Nvidia TNT2 video card and I get from 9 fps in a heavy fire fight to about 40 like in a small room. So does anybody have one. P.S. I checked the web tryed some but wasnt good either. I'd figure I would do better here since alot of people here know alot about quake.
Thanks alot,
Eddie
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:17 pm
by Foo
TNT2 with what systems surrounding it?
Some basic commands for increased FPS:
\r_picmip 2
\r_fastsky 1
\r_subdivisions 20
\cg_forcemodel 1
\cg_drawgun 0
\cg_simpleitems 1
\r_lodbias 2
\r_mode 3
\vid_restart
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:28 pm
by Eddie
Its an old comp
AMD k6 tm 400 mhz
312 mb ram
windows xp sp2
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:41 pm
by Foo
The TNT2 always had issues with the K6 systems, because allmost all K6 systems had a VIA chipset at that point which the card hated. I used to be able to get a fluctuating FPS of between 20 and 55 FPS if I turned everything to *absolute* lowest.
The tweaks I suggested should help a little, but bear in mind it wont ever get to 125 or even 50FPS consistent
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:43 pm
by Eddie
yea i just played a game in texas noghost and my fps increased alittle. thanks for your help. hopefully next month i will get a new comp for my birthday.
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:51 pm
by Foo
That would be good
If not, though, upgrading parts for a machine like that would be very cheap - you'd probably find RAM. processor and graphics cards for the system quite cheap on ebay and such.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:14 am
by Eddie
yea i can do that also. Can you recomend a video card that is for pci that can get very good fps that is cheap and also run good on my comp. thanks
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:28 am
by Oeloe
Hmm, finding a PCI vidcard that's faster than the TNT2 will be very difficult i'm afraid. I don't even recall that there was a PCI version of the TNT2. I had an AGP (4X) version anyway.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:47 am
by Foo
The TNT2 will be okay if you up the processor speed. My main issue with the TNT2 when I had it on a K6-2 machine was that it would blue-screen windows every now and again, and get very hot. The TNT2 was the same generation card as the Voodoo 3, but if you strapped a faster processor and more ram onto it it far outperformed the voodoo 3.
If you can find a voodoo 4 or 5, they had PCI versions I think. They're kinda rare now with 3dfx going broke, but I guess they exist somewhere. Beyond that, I don't know, there may have been some PCI versions of the geforce 1 and 2. If you can get a PCI Geforce 2 MX with a faster processor you'll be getting excellent performance.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:48 am
by Foo
In fact, there are quite a few PCI cards still available and it looks like a lot of sellers still carry them:
http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/Products ... bnails=yes
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 12:59 am
by Eddie
Thanks alot man :icon25:
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:54 am
by menkent
ffs, get on ebay and buy a gf2mx or something. that rig should be a in a museum... or playing q2.
edit: didn't read the entire thread... agree with others- get new cpu/mobo, then you can get an agp card. for the record, i got better fps than that with a voodoo3 on a p2-350MHz with *maybe* 128MB ram. tweak your shizzle.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:30 am
by busetibi
try some of these cfg's
http://ucguides.savagehelp.com/Quake3/FPS_visuals.html
when i first started playing Q3 i had a tnt2, with some shitty intel thing, was able to pull 50-60 fps on most maps.
go into Options and turn everything "Off" ejecting brass and all that stuff, from memory i was using picmip 5.
sry cant seem to find an old cfg
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:20 pm
by Oeloe
I doubt that a GF FX5200 will outperform a TNT2 by much though. A PCI FX5200 with 256 MB for over 50 quid, that's extremely ridiculous btw. 256 MB is a lot even on a GF 6600GT. Pretty much anything older than Quake 4 doesn't need 256 MB of video memory.
Your money is really best spent on a cpu+mobo replacement. You can get used machines that are way faster than your current machine for the price of that FX5200...
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:42 pm
by Survivor
My config, totally unoptimised:127.1
Best Visual/FPS Compromise config from uc: 186.9
Best FPS config from uc: 226.0
GFX card: 8X AGP 128 mb Geforce FX 5200
800x600
512 mb ram, 1.8 ghz
I'd say the mobo/cpu upgrade would be best for you as well. On a sidenote, the FX 5200 I have has never, ever, ever crashed on me. It might not deliver the biggest bang in fps but it keeps on trucking through everything.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:01 pm
by ^misantropia^
Regarding config tweaks, r_vertexlight 1 will give you a considerable FPS boost at the cost of those nice lightmapped environments.
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:13 pm
by menkent
here's a chunk from my gfx config... hasn't really changed much since 1999ish, so it should give decent fps.
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// CG Settings //
seta cg_smoke_gl "0"
seta cg_smoke_rl "0"
seta cg_smoke_sg "0"
seta cg_noprojectiletrail "1"
seta cg_nomip "183"
seta cg_drawGun "1"
seta cg_gibs "0"
seta cg_draw2D "1"
seta cg_show2D "1"
seta cg_drawStatus "1"
seta cg_drawTimer "1"
seta cg_drawFPS "1"
seta cg_draw3dIcons "0"
seta cg_drawAmmoWarning "0"
seta cg_drawAttacker "0"
seta cg_drawRewards "0"
seta cg_simpleItems "1"
seta cg_predictItems "1"
seta cg_lagometer "1"
seta cg_deferPlayers "1"
seta cg_drawTeamOverlay "1"
seta cg_marks "0"
seta cg_shadows "0"
seta cg_drawIcons "0"
seta cg_draw2dicons "0"
seta cg_autoswitch "0"
seta cg_brasstime "0"
seta cg_runpitch "0"
seta cg_runroll "0"
seta cg_bobup "0"
seta cg_bobpitch "0"
seta cg_bobroll "0"
seta cg_damagedraw "1"
seta cg_smoke_sg "0"
seta cg_smokegrowth_gl "0"
seta cg_smokeradius_gl "0"
seta cg_smokegrowth_rl "0"
seta cg_smokeradius_rl "0"
seta cg_usescreenshotjpeg "1"
// R settings //
seta r_ext_compressed_textures "0"
seta r_primitives "0"
seta r_facePlaneCull "1"
seta r_gamma "2"
seta r_swapInterval "0"
seta r_textureMode "GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST"
seta r_finish "0"
seta r_dlightBacks "1"
seta r_dynamicLight "0"
seta r_drawSun "0"
seta r_fastsky "0"
seta r_ignoreGLErrors "1"
seta r_flares "0"
seta r_lodbias "1"
seta r_lodCurveError "250"
seta r_ignoreFastPath "1"
seta r_smp "0"
seta r_subdivisions "20"
seta r_vertexLight "1"
seta r_simpleMipMaps "1"
seta r_fullscreen "1"
seta r_mode "4"
seta r_ignorehwgamma "0"
seta r_overBrightBits "0"
seta r_depthbits "24"
seta r_stencilbits "0"
seta r_colorbits "16"
seta r_texturebits "0"
seta r_detailtextures "0"
seta r_roundImagesDown "1"
seta r_picmip "5"
seta r_ext_texture_env_add "0"
seta r_ext_compiled_vertex_array "1"
seta r_ext_multitexture "0"
seta r_ext_gamma_control "0"
seta r_allowExtensions "1"
seta r_fullbright "0"
seta r_mapOverBrightBits "3"
seta r_intensity "1.6"
seta r_znear "4"
seta r_ambientScale "0.5"
seta r_lightmap "0"
seta r_flareSize "40"
seta r_showsky "0"
seta r_noportals "0"
seta r_preloadTextures "0"
// Model settings //
seta model "sarge/blue"
seta team_headmodel "sarge/blue"
seta team_model "sarge/blue"
seta headmodel "sarge/blue"
seta enemyModel "keel/pm"
seta cg_enemyModel "keel/pm"
seta cm_playerCurveClip "1"
seta forceModel 1
seta cg_forcemodel 1
seta cg_forceEnemyModel 1
seta cg_enemyColors "0iii"
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:55 pm
by Eddie
Thanks guys. Im praying next month I'll get a new comp and the way it looks I am.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 8:10 am
by black8ball
i got a Ibm thats a 2.8 ghz and has 1 gig memory and has a 512 video card and it runs quake faster than sonic the hedgehog can run
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:10 am
by Oeloe
Right, don't forget to turn off smoke trails (cg_noprojectiletrail 1)! It's causes frame drops on slow systems.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:10 pm
by menkent
with the config i posted i get 336fps on my athlon 2800+ with 1GB ram and a gf4-4800se (with a bunch of junk running in the bg). i can well remember the days i'd have to do a fresh restart then shut down everything i could in the task manager to play.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:21 pm
by Oeloe
menkent wrote:with the config i posted i get 336fps
Depends entirely on the map you play. There are Q3 maps that probably still make a GF 7900 choke.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:11 pm
by menkent
blah blah blah.
timedemo 1; demo four.dm_68