Quake3World

Mmkay, so, I have an older prebuild machine that is giving me trouble.

What happened

1) I wanted to remove a DVD burner from this machine. I did so and attempted to start up the PC afterwards (there is still a CD drive in there).
2) The startup screen (the HP/XP logo) shows up fine, but when it normally should go to the desktop the monitor goes from green light to yellow light and nothing shows up.
3) It seems like the computer itself is still booting up fine, but it's not displayed on the monitor.

This system actually has an onboard graphics card but I placed a cheap Geforce 4 MX in there. One more thing: Originally, being the idiot I am, I booted up the system with the monitor connected to my disabled onboard video card. It didn't work and I then moved the cable to the Geforce. Could this have something to do with it?!

Anay ideas?

that would have NOTHING to do with it. it isnt booting because its an HP. sorry to say. i worked as an hp tech and basically you will have to call them for support. otherwise i'll just tell you to format and re-install.

or of course you can turnh on the machine and press F10 constantly until you get the bootup menu. then there are 2 options. one will format and re-install. the other will re-install all windows files. removing everything in my documents but leaving other folders alone.

why? its already got by there. its found the drive and booted from it....

No it didn't, he said there was an optical there, nad that he tried turning it on. There is no mention of booting to disc. It just shows the BIOS picture, then goes black. I'd say to do exactly what KoS said, and while you're in there, make sure you didn't happen to knock anything loose.

KingManULTRA wrote:2) The startup screen (the HP/XP logo) shows up fine, but when it normally should go to the desktop the monitor goes from green light to yellow light and nothing shows up.

are you both blind? gets bios screen, gets xp screen (MEANING IT BOOTS FROM THE HARD DISK FINE), then, when hitting desktop, it goes black. learn to read. the fucking lot of you.

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ummmmmmmm I take it you can't get into safemode?

edit: btw dude, formatting is a last resort...You gonna buy a new car just b/c it want start...

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ummmmmmmm I take it you can't get into safemode?

edit: btw dude, formatting is a last resort...You gonna buy a new car just b/c it want start...

Formatting is fun.. people should do it more often, then they would have less issues with their computers and learn more about their hardware, and drivers..

Oblivi0.on wrote:

KingManULTRA wrote:2) The startup screen (the HP/XP logo) shows up fine, but when it normally should go to the desktop the monitor goes from green light to yellow light and nothing shows up.

are you both blind? gets bios screen, gets xp screen (MEANING IT BOOTS FROM THE HARD DISK FINE), then, when hitting desktop, it goes black. learn to read. the fucking lot of you.

well it is still possible. People need to learn anything is possible and before trying to reinstall drivers, reformatting or using a full pot of coffee checking the jumpers with any IDE related error is a smart thing to do.

To KingMan I would go into your BIOS, I forget what it is on HPs try hitting the delete key and all the F keys when you are there disable the HP logo so you can see what is happening within the BIOS. Also make sure the cable is fit snig into the drive and try putting the IDE end that was in the DVD burner into the CD drive.

Kills On Site wrote:
well it is still possible. People need to learn anything is possible and before trying to reinstall drivers, reformatting or using a full pot of coffee checking the jumpers with any IDE related error is a smart thing to do.

No, it isn't a possible cause to this issue. XP is booting which means its past drive detection like Obliv said.
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Tormentius wrote:

Kills On Site wrote:
well it is still possible. People need to learn anything is possible and before trying to reinstall drivers, reformatting or using a full pot of coffee checking the jumpers with any IDE related error is a smart thing to do.

No, it isn't a possible cause to this issue. XP is booting which means its past drive detection like Obliv said.
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His install might be flipping out if he took out a master dvd drive and its trying to find a single slave on a 2 device cable..

ive had installs flip out for less.. so id check jumpers too.

Tormentius wrote:Really? I have never seen or heard of an "install flipping out" over a jumper setting. If a jumper setting is wrong the issue normally occurs before the OS loads.

exactly....ARRRGHGH..

listen. do you know how the boot sequence works? because i dont think you do.

the BIOS handle all boot options. no DRIVERS or "hp specific" drivers either.

bios scan cables. finds device. loads device. loads windows from device (we know this BECAUSE the windows xp screen starts loading). now, bios is DONE and over with. it has found the device and booted from it. obviously the problem lies with ruined files on the hard disk. but as for jumpers, not a fucking chance.

also, even if he removed a device do you think that little jumper on the back of the previous master device (hard disk) deviced to magically jump to the slave postion. try to think next time ffs.

you are one of those rich kids that are given everything which makes them think they know what they are talking about, arent you?

Oblivi0.on wrote:also, even if he removed a device do you think that little jumper on the back of the previous master device (hard disk) deviced to magically jump to the slave postion. try to think next time ffs.

He was vauge. I assumed his HDD was Master Primary IDE and his DVD burner was Master Secondary IDE and CD Drive was Slave Secondary IDE. That would make most sence, and is what HP did with my HP, not to mention that one of the devices must be on a different IDE channel from the other two.

Kills On Site wrote:

Oblivi0.on wrote:also, even if he removed a device do you think that little jumper on the back of the previous master device (hard disk) deviced to magically jump to the slave postion. try to think next time ffs.

He was vauge. I assumed his HDD was Master Primary IDE and his DVD burner was Master Secondary IDE and CD Drive was Slave Secondary IDE. That would make most sence, and is what HP did with my HP, not to mention that one of the devices must be on a different IDE channel from the other two.

ok, lets take your "assumption" here. if the hdd was primary master, and dvd burner was secondary master, how would taking the sec master out affect anything with the primary master?

it would still be master. it would still be primary. it would still be the first boot option. so not s fucking thing has changed in the boot sequence.

All the cables seem to be fine. How exactly do you change the jumper settings?

If nothing else works I could still do a format (although there is a decent amount of important stuff on there).