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game?

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:32 pm
by Fjoggs
spawnfragging, kthx.

foo? brisk? oeloe? OSP though.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 7:47 pm
by menkent
ip?

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:15 pm
by Fjoggs
193.69.8.154:27960 ?
It'll be total shit for you though, IIRC you'r overseas.

Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:20 pm
by Fjoggs
ah shit. gtg, mebbe some other teim.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:28 pm
by Oeloe
Game? Gay 15 minute timelimit there though and muted specs... :S

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:57 pm
by menkent
that's standard for a 1v1 server.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:46 pm
by Oeloe
I actually made the mistake of trying a few games on that server. Now i remember why i don't play OSP. You have to adjust your aim totally to your ping (and then you'll still have a huge disadvantage), while in CPMa you only need to change one or two settings and a slight adjustment in your aim (with a ping twice as high as in OSP).

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:01 am
by menkent
yea, but you have to play cpma. i'd rather play defensive and spam a lot.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:59 am
by Oeloe
menkent wrote:yea, but you have to play cpma. i'd rather play defensive and spam a lot.
My point exactly! :icon25: VQ3/OSP tourney players have no right to insult Counterstrikers, they're guilty of the same kind of crimes! >:E (from a promoder's perspective ;))

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:52 am
by Lenard
what the hell. I never figured out what IIRC means.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:06 pm
by menkent
if i recall correctly

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:32 pm
by Fjoggs
Oeloe wrote:
menkent wrote:yea, but you have to play cpma. i'd rather play defensive and spam a lot.
My point exactly! :icon25: VQ3/OSP tourney players have no right to insult Counterstrikers, they're guilty of the same kind of crimes! >:E (from a promoder's perspective ;))
haha, as if cpma aint spam.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:21 pm
by Oeloe
It's more the defensive style and slow calculated aiming and spamming (standing still on some spot with a long line of sight) that makes the game unbearable to watch and play for me... :icon8: The slow weapon switch gets in my way too much too because it often feels to me like i have this ocean of time in which i can do nothing but wait until my weapon has switched.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:28 pm
by menkent
hence decision making. fast-switching is a crutch for people that can't resist the urge to use the wrong weapon.
cpma only seems faster because the maps are tiny and open (cpm3, aerowalk, cpm1a) and the armor/dmg system is skewed so that you can take a harder hit when you're stacked so there's a lot more cess compared to osp on ztn or dm6 where one rail can shift item control and lose you the game. saying you like cpma because osp is "boring" is like preferring flyweight boxing over heavyweight because the little guys throw more punches.

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:33 pm
by Foo
:olo:

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:52 pm
by Oeloe
:) I didn't use the words boring or cess though. I just like close combat and despise of hitscan rape. The latter goes on in cpma too but LG and RG both deal less damage in it, while they are much more usable for HPB's.

My point about the weapon switch time obviously was that i make decisions faster than VQ3 allows me to enact.
menkent wrote:one rail can shift item control and lose you the game.
Thanks for proving my point about the similarity of OSP and CS. :p

Btw, of course the armor system in cpma is skewed (just like the weapon hierarchy); shifts the balance to the player that's actually controlling the items, so that it takes more than one rail or direct rocket hit to take back control. You can call it cess but i like the much bigger dynamism it gives to the game. The amount of cess in cpma is probably less though, because positioning plays a bigger role with cpm physics, requiring less spam and making dodging more viable. It depends a lot on one's playing style though.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:00 am
by prince1000
you cant compare osp and cpma. plz stop.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:59 pm
by Oeloe
So no more time for a game, Fjoggs?