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the decider disobeys 750 new laws...

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:44 pm
by Freakaloin
doesn't that make him a dictator?...

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washi ... s_of_laws/

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:12 pm
by hate
of course

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:08 am
by Massive Quasars
War presidents are often shit presidents supposedly necessitated by the times. A good war president is a rare specimen indeed.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:29 am
by Freakaloin
what war? we aren't in any real war...grow up kid...

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 4:44 am
by mjrpes
lol democracy

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:35 am
by seremtan
every war president wants to be churchill...and fails

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:48 am
by busetibi
thats why they kicked Churchill out of office after the war :icon26:

and lets not forget the fuck up he made at Gallipoli

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:18 pm
by Monster w/ 21 Faces
Massive Quasars wrote:War presidents are often shit presidents supposedly necessitated by the times. A good war president is a rare specimen indeed.
There never was a war.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:41 pm
by Fender
jesus fucking christ

he thinks he's king

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:58 pm
by R00k
He sure does. In addition to the responsibility of the execution of laws, he is usurping the role of creating and interpreting the meaning of legislation as well.

He is acting out the roles of all three branches of government himself, behind closed doors after everyone else is gone home.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:02 pm
by Ryoki
I met an American called Jim this weekend and asked: "Do you think Bush will be impeached before the end of the term?"
"No" he answered: "I think there will have to be a Revolution. Those bastards. Let's not speak of this, not today. It's getting me down."

I grinned.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:11 pm
by busetibi
no way will bush be impeached
the only good thing about this is that freak will leave the bb :olo:
http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewto ... ight=leave

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:17 pm
by R00k
Why do you think there's no way he'll be impeached?

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:18 pm
by busetibi
hes gotten away with to much, he can't be touched

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:18 pm
by Ryoki
Personally i think the chances are still small, but increasing each day. He possibly won't survive another major scandal...

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:21 pm
by R00k
busetibi wrote:hes gotten away with to much, he can't be touched
But a lot of people are just now finding out about the things he's "gotten away" with.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:23 pm
by busetibi
makes no difference, the people that matter have known for ages.
his power base is too strong

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:34 pm
by R00k
I disagree. His approval rating is getting tinier by the week - once it gets to a certain point, it would be political suicide for Congress not to impeach him.

What's interesting is the lack of public outrage. By that I mean the lack of the media's willingness to publicize the outrage that does exist.

Just like Ryoki's guy, the large majority of people in this country want his ass out of office - but still the mainstream news is not interested in airing these grievances in proportion to the numbers of people who feel that way. Their headlines aren't a whole lot different in tone than they were a year ago.

So, to people who get all their news from television, there doesn't really seem to be a lot of outrage at all. So those people think they're still in the minority if they want Bush impeached, even if that isn't necessarily true.

That's the dangerous power that a few large companies have over our political process.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 1:40 pm
by busetibi
R00k wrote:
That's the dangerous power that a few large companies have over our political process.
winna!
;)

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:57 pm
by kapitalkev
[Bush asserts] that he has the power to set aside any statute passed by Congress when it conflicts with his interpretation of the Constitution.
Jesus! :icon20:
Just thinking about a Bush supporter trying to defend this one makes me want to vomit. :puke:

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:36 am
by Massive Quasars
[url=http://www.landmarkcases.org/nixon/nixonview.html]Nixon's Views on Presidential Power:
Excerpts from an Interview with David Frost[/url]
...

FROST: So what in a sense, you're saying is that there are certain situations, and the Huston Plan or that part of it was one of them, where the president can decide that it's in the best interests of the nation or something, and do something illegal.

NIXON: Well, when the president does it that means that it is not illegal.

FROST: By definition.

NIXON: Exactly. Exactly. If the president, for example, approves something because of the national security, or in this case because of a threat to internal peace and order of significant magnitude, then the president's decision in that instance is one that enables those who carry it out, to carry it out without violating a law. Otherwise they're in an impossible position.

....

Posted: Tue May 02, 2006 5:29 pm
by R00k
It sounds like the UK is pushing for their ministers to have authoritarian powers as well.
They are trying to pass a law that will allow any minister to arbitrarily change any existing law, with no oversight, as long as it doesn't impose new taxes, isn't a criminal offense with more than a 2 year prison sentence, and doesn't authorize forced search and seizure.

http://www.saveparliament.org.uk/problem.html

Jeez, it's like we're both trying to out-Hitler each other. :icon27: