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Here's a list I compiled that consists of reasons of why the Wii may in fact become a huge success:

• Price: The Wii is cheap. Those that would rather buy a PS3 or XBox 360 would be more likely to buy a Wii as 2nd console than a PS3 or 360. This even more so because of the rather high price point of the PS3 and 360.
• Following a trend the DS has set: The DS has proven to us that innovative controls are more important (or just as important) as fancy graphics. The current criticism about the Wii is exactly the same as the criticism on the DS when it was first released.
• Nintendo's image starts to change: Nintendo's image is gradually changing from "the gaming company for kids" to "the gaming company with the new cool ideas". The response to Wii in general has been incredibly positive and while there are still doubters, it's very clear Nintendo's "disruptive" strategy does it's work. At the same time, Sony is building up a really bad and non-friendly image right now, something which might sway potential soccer-mom-buyers from the PS3 to the Wii side.
• New yet old: The Wii sports a new control system which allows for new innovative games. However, while the control itself is like nothing else, people can still play games like Metroid Prime and Zelda that look exactly the same as what they remember.
• Development for competition is expensive: With all the HDTV support flying around in the MS and Sony camps, development of games has become incredibly expensive. The Wii is a perfect platform for relative small developers to develop "small" innovative games that wouldn't work on other systems (both technically and marketing-wise).
• Wii is based on Gamecube technology: All the developers with Gamecube development experience can use all that experience when developing for the Wii, giving them a massive headstart over PS3 development and, admittedly to a lesser extent, XBox 360 development. A Gamecube devkit is pretty much all you need to develop for Wii, and a GC devkit is really cheap.
• Virtual Console: This alone is a reason for many people to buy a Wii. Still a bit of an iffy point though, since Nintendo hasn't announced anything about the pricing of this service.
• Nintendo has a large number of strong IP lines: While they're slated by a number of people for continually "recycling" Mario, there's a much bigger group of people who recognize Mario and identify with it's games. People recognize it from their childhood (hence the massive amount of positive responses to New Super Mario Bros and announcements of games like Yoshi's Island 2) and people know it's quality they'll get.

Start the flaming...

i'm sure it will do good.

its nintendo right.

you got the fever man good stuff :icon14:

i dont think that i will get Wii, Just like how i dident get Gaycube...

the best part is that now the name is REALLY Easy to make fun of..

"Shit man! i told you not to talk to me wile you are playing with your wii wii, thats sick!:
*Hang up*

nintendo is the new apple :icon19:

Eraser wrote:Here's a list I compiled that consists of reasons of why the Wii may in fact become a huge success:

• Price: The Wii is cheap. Those that would rather buy a PS3 or XBox 360 would be more likely to buy a Wii as 2nd console than a PS3 or 360. This even more so because of the rather high price point of the PS3 and 360.
• Following a trend the DS has set: The DS has proven to us that innovative controls are more important (or just as important) as fancy graphics. The current criticism about the Wii is exactly the same as the criticism on the DS when it was first released.
• Nintendo's image starts to change: Nintendo's image is gradually changing from "the gaming company for kids" to "the gaming company with the new cool ideas". The response to Wii in general has been incredibly positive and while there are still doubters, it's very clear Nintendo's "disruptive" strategy does it's work. At the same time, Sony is building up a really bad and non-friendly image right now, something which might sway potential soccer-mom-buyers from the PS3 to the Wii side.
• New yet old: The Wii sports a new control system which allows for new innovative games. However, while the control itself is like nothing else, people can still play games like Metroid Prime and Zelda that look exactly the same as what they remember.
• Development for competition is expensive: With all the HDTV support flying around in the MS and Sony camps, development of games has become incredibly expensive. The Wii is a perfect platform for relative small developers to develop "small" innovative games that wouldn't work on other systems (both technically and marketing-wise).
• Wii is based on Gamecube technology: All the developers with Gamecube development experience can use all that experience when developing for the Wii, giving them a massive headstart over PS3 development and, admittedly to a lesser extent, XBox 360 development. A Gamecube devkit is pretty much all you need to develop for Wii, and a GC devkit is really cheap.
• Virtual Console: This alone is a reason for many people to buy a Wii. Still a bit of an iffy point though, since Nintendo hasn't announced anything about the pricing of this service.
• Nintendo has a large number of strong IP lines: While they're slated by a number of people for continually "recycling" Mario, there's a much bigger group of people who recognize Mario and identify with it's games. People recognize it from their childhood (hence the massive amount of positive responses to New Super Mario Bros and announcements of games like Yoshi's Island 2) and people know it's quality they'll get.

Start the flaming...

Honestly, you're alright. I like your posts. But you might want to check out a life sometime.

Would it be great if the Virtual Console worked on VIP points. You had to buy VIP points, which were dirt cheap, a penny a point, and games cost 100 points...

I have thousands of the fucking things too, so i could buy a shit load of stuff

I agree with all of your points. Oh and odium...ditto. I have like about 25 games worth of points on my account.

Online SNES Mario Kart Multiplayer???

PLEASE.

I suspect Eraser to be a buzzer...

o'dium wrote:Would it be great if the Virtual Console worked on VIP points. You had to buy VIP points, which were dirt cheap, a penny a point, and games cost 100 points...

I have thousands of the fucking things too, so i could buy a shit load of stuff

Got 13.000 VIP points (stars) now. If I hadn't gotten the Pokémon Box for 3500 points for a friend, it would be even more Buying games for stars is indeed a VERY welcome idea.

I'm getting a PS3 for MGS4 and a 360 for GTA4. They haven't announced any games that interest me for Wii yet. :icon19:

If you're only getting a 360 for gta then why don't you just get the ps3 version along with mgs and save some money?

can someone give me a link to a video that showcases the wii and/or controller?

i saw one that had a dude conducting a virtual orchestra and snippets of a samurai game but it wasn't very clear...

r3t wrote:

o'dium wrote:Would it be great if the Virtual Console worked on VIP points. You had to buy VIP points, which were dirt cheap, a penny a point, and games cost 100 points...

I have thousands of the fucking things too, so i could buy a shit load of stuff

Got 13.000 VIP points (stars) now. If I hadn't gotten the Pokémon Box for 3500 points for a friend, it would be even more Buying games for stars is indeed a VERY welcome idea.

Yeah it would also mean with every few games you buy, you get "free" games too, which is a fantastic thing to have pushing your sales.

However Nintendo, while good in some areas, can be a little "behind" when it comes to pushing a product in the right way.

_borsdy wrote:If you're only getting a 360 for gta then why don't you just get the ps3 version along with mgs and save some money?

You cant put "PS3" and "Save some money" in the same sentence you fool

shut it odium, your thread is here
http://quake3world.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=20282

how do u earn vip points or stars?

I will get a Wii and i love my sonys consoles.
Mario Galaxies looking fucking splendid.
I'm even thinking of joining the darkside and gettin a DS for Mario and Zelda

o'dium wrote: You cant put "PS3" and "Save some money" in the same sentence you fool

Yeah, I did make a strange face typing that.

[xeno]Julios wrote:can someone give me a link to a video that showcases the wii and/or controller?

i saw one that had a dude conducting a virtual orchestra and snippets of a samurai game but it wasn't very clear...

[xeno]Julios wrote:how do u earn vip points or stars?

on eurogamer.net (link: http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?p ... id=382&s=l) you can see some highlights of the Nintendo E3 press conference, and I believe the complete conference as well. VIP points, or stars as they are called on the website of Nintendo Europe, can be earned by signing up as a VIP member with a code you get when you buy a Nintendo first or second party game or console.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php? ... 1&type=wmv mariooooooo galaxyyyyyy
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php? ... 6&type=wmv mp3

http://wii.nintendo.com/home.html wiii

And then every game after that will add to them.

Both DS and GameCube games (Nintendo games, you know, hard hitters) all have VIP points inside the box, and they range in size, 50, 100, 200, 250 etc.

So you just collect them.

There was some great trades for them on the ninty site, like a Game Boy Player for your cube, but they were always sold out

Thats why it would be good, because we have them, loads of them. You get them free, so every so often you can get a retro game for free. Plus they kind of work like points already.

I'm still not 100% sure about Mario Galaxy. The control seems very "tacked on" at the moment. I think i'm kinda gutted they didn't do a "Mario 64 - 2".

However, it LOOKS stunning for such a little system, and the art style is superb. Of course i'll get it, but i just need to figure out the damn control

it is much like m64 is it not, more then say, mario sunshine right

the controls seem fine too, what do you think is bad about them?

bikkeldesnikkel wrote:it is much like m64 is it not, more then say, mario sunshine right

the controls seem fine too, what do you think is bad about them?

Just the fact that they are different, you know? Not saying i dont like them, just worreid i have to get used to them again. Hell i never liked metroid hunters controls but now i love them. Just takes time.

As for Mario Galaxy, no its not like Mario 64. In fact its probably MORE different than Mario Sunshine was. This time, you have a whole world to explore and move around, and its a completly different axis. Its looking less "platformer" and more "twitchey jumper". Plus the new moves that requires the Wii Wand.

It all looks different, thats all. Good? Bad? Nah, just different. I'm sure i'll love it. Just need to get my hands on that pad