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the end of E3
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:12 pm
by SoM
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:16 pm
by o'dium
Translation: "Sony flopped this year, so they had a hissy fit at them and they want to pull the plug."
Nah kidding. Its a shame if it does go, its one of those cool things that lasts for like 2 weeks but gets the geeks of the world drooling.
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:32 pm
by MKJ
that wont happen, its a too important deal to shut down.
it might get a lot more exclusive though, which is a good thing imo. that way it will be about games and plans again and not about flashy lights and giant booths
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:38 pm
by o'dium
Booth babes :icon14:
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:41 pm
by SoM
if it will get more exclusive then it'll cost more, and theyre already whinning about that
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:39 pm
by 4g3nt_Smith
o'dium wrote:Booth babes :icon14:
They did away with those this last E3. There were fines and stuff for any vendor with scantily clad women or anything like that.
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:01 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
o'dium wrote:Translation: "Sony flopped this year, so they had a hissy fit at them and they want to pull the plug."
Nah kidding. Its a shame if it does go, its one of those cool things that lasts for like 2 weeks but gets the geeks of the world drooling.
jesus fucking christ
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 11:44 pm
by booker
what? no more false shipping dates and cg demos?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:54 am
by obsidian
They should have smaller, diversified expos. Imagine having a E3 in most major cities. Have a few days for exclusive press, then open to public charging admission to recover some of the costs. Maybe sell a t-shirt or two and a mancubus shaped fudge-sicle. Even indie game developers will get a chance to show their stuff.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:41 am
by MKJ
o'dium wrote:Booth babes :icon14:
are gone \o/
skanks
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:28 pm
by Jackal
MKJ wrote:that wont happen, its a too important deal to shut down.
it might get a lot more exclusive though, which is a good thing imo. that way it will be about games and plans again and not about flashy lights and giant booths
If the big publishers don't see the benefit to the show then it's not going to matter how important it is. I could definitely see this happening.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:31 pm
by Cooldown
"Update: Ars Technica has joined in the fray, stating that according to its own sources, E3 will still exist, but in much smaller form. Apparently, the ESA would like to get the show back to the smaller, more subdued gathering that E3 originally represented. Ironically E3 was first organized to avoid the bloated and costly trade shows that the games industry previously attended.
As far as which report is correct, we'll just have to wait and see. One thing on which everybody seems to agree is that the ESA will make an announcement tomorrow."
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:42 pm
by MKJ
Jackal wrote:MKJ wrote:that wont happen, its a too important deal to shut down.
it might get a lot more exclusive though, which is a good thing imo. that way it will be about games and plans again and not about flashy lights and giant booths
If the big publishers don't see the benefit to the show then it's not going to matter how important it is. I could definitely see this happening.
if the publishers dont see benefits then it loses importance

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:50 pm
by o'dium
To be honest, what exactly did we get out of this years E3? Not a lot really in my eyes at least. We got hardly any new media, we learned that the PS3 copied everybody, we learned that the 360 may actually do a lot better than the old xbox, and we learned that the Wii will more than likely win the "next generation" console war without even being a next generation console.
In short, we dont know leaps and bounds more now compared to what we knew before it started.
E3 always used to be about the games, about showing off your latest title, about letting the masses see and even experience the game first hand if possible.
I challenge anybody, without looking online, to name me 10 titles from 360, Wii, PC and PS3 from this years E3. At past old events that would of been easy, but this year it was harder than ever. It seems the focus shifted to a 47 hour long speach about how the Sony PS3 pad has 6 degrees of wank, followed by a 4 second CGI trailer for a game released in 2008. Where are the goods?
I think down sizing E3 to be a smaller, more focused event like it used to be is spot on the way to go, and i hope that they really do follow up on this.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:55 pm
by MKJ
actually there were tons of games, its just that it got all drowned out by all the nextgen crap in the media.
http://www.ign.com/e3/2006/games/game-asc.html
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:10 pm
by Jackal
o'dium wrote:To be honest, what exactly did we get out of this years E3? Not a lot really in my eyes at least. We got hardly any new media, we learned that the PS3 copied everybody, we learned that the 360 may actually do a lot better than the old xbox, and we learned that the Wii will more than likely win the "next generation" console war without even being a next generation console.
In short, we dont know leaps and bounds more now compared to what we knew before it started.
E3 always used to be about the games, about showing off your latest title, about letting the masses see and even experience the game first hand if possible.
I challenge anybody, without looking online, to name me 10 titles from 360, Wii, PC and PS3 from this years E3. At past old events that would of been easy, but this year it was harder than ever. It seems the focus shifted to a 47 hour long speach about how the Sony PS3 pad has 6 degrees of wank, followed by a 4 second CGI trailer for a game released in 2008. Where are the goods?
I think down sizing E3 to be a smaller, more focused event like it used to be is spot on the way to go, and i hope that they really do follow up on this.
You're not supposed to "get anything" from the show at all. That's sort of the point of an industry-only show. It's meant to create and follow-up on business, not to pimp Game X (which is aruguably the cause for the decline). I know our company generates an entire years worth of work out of that one week. Any other business we pick up along the way is just gravy.
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:49 pm
by bitWISE
My friend is going to SIGGRAPH today

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:15 pm
by Chupacabra
Jackal wrote:o'dium wrote:To be honest, what exactly did we get out of this years E3? Not a lot really in my eyes at least. We got hardly any new media, we learned that the PS3 copied everybody, we learned that the 360 may actually do a lot better than the old xbox, and we learned that the Wii will more than likely win the "next generation" console war without even being a next generation console.
In short, we dont know leaps and bounds more now compared to what we knew before it started.
E3 always used to be about the games, about showing off your latest title, about letting the masses see and even experience the game first hand if possible.
I challenge anybody, without looking online, to name me 10 titles from 360, Wii, PC and PS3 from this years E3. At past old events that would of been easy, but this year it was harder than ever. It seems the focus shifted to a 47 hour long speach about how the Sony PS3 pad has 6 degrees of wank, followed by a 4 second CGI trailer for a game released in 2008. Where are the goods?
I think down sizing E3 to be a smaller, more focused event like it used to be is spot on the way to go, and i hope that they really do follow up on this.
You're not supposed to "get anything" from the show at all. That's sort of the point of an industry-only show. It's meant to create and follow-up on business, not to pimp Game X (which is aruguably the cause for the decline). I know our company generates an entire years worth of work out of that one week. Any other business we pick up along the way is just gravy.
What do you mean by follow up on business? And what do you mean by the cause for the decline? Do you mean decline as in number of people? Press coverage? The "profibility"?
Games X, Y, Z...System X, Y, Z...have been being pimped at E3 for a number of years. One of my friends has been going to E3 for ten years. From what he tells me about it, it sounds like its pretty much the same thing. I'm in no way saying that he knows more about this stuff than you do, just that I'm not sure as to what you're getting at. I'm genuinely curious.
Anyway, isn't that what a lot of these shows like CES have been about for a long time: pimp and announce your new products and ventures?