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I wonder if Americans will get something similar in 10 years
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 1:13 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Vietnam to axe detention decree
The Vietnamese authorities are to abolish a 10-year-old decree which allows detention without trial.
Critics of the controversial regulation say it is often used to detain opponents of the government.
The measure has also been specifically mentioned during the human rights dialogue between Vietnam and the US.
The move comes as the US is expected to normalise trade relations with Vietnam ahead of a trip to Hanoi by US President George W Bush.
An official at the US State Department said Hanoi's decision had been conveyed to US Assistant Secretary of State Barry Lowenkron when he was visiting the Vietnamese capital two weeks ago.
"Whoever is detained will have to know what they are being detained for and be given an opportunity to go to court and to meet with a lawyer - rights which were not granted before," said Michael Orona, the US State Department's deputy director of the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Labour.
Hanoi has been under pressure to make progress on human rights issues ahead of a vote in the US Congress on a bill normalising trade relations with Vietnam.
Jesus fucking Christ...the US in this "dialogue"....the hypocrisy is thicker than my cock.
America has become a country that projects everything that it is not and condemns everything that it is. - Kevin Tillman
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:10 pm
by Grudge
lol, it's funny how the US is becoming a totalitarian dictatorship
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:12 pm
by seremtan
my sides are just splitting
Re: I wonder if Americans will get something similar in 10 y
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:13 pm
by seremtan
GONNAFISTYA wrote:Vietnam to axe detention decree
ironically, just as the UK is planning to introduce a ridiculously long 90 day period before an arrested person must be charged or released
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 6:32 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
@ UK
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:31 pm
by seremtan
yep, habeas corpus weakened, double jeopardy replaced with triple jeopardy, no right to silence in certain kinds of cases (like terrorism - since the IRA, so not new), free speech undermined by hate speech laws
looks like we exported all our freedom to iraq after all
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:33 pm
by Doombrain
seremtan wrote:my sides are just splitting
indeed
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:45 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:48 pm
by Doombrain
I’d rather be known as a four eyed fagg0t in a dress than be a fat cunt that can’t get sex
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 7:57 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
I'm glad your fantasies make you happy....especially the fantasy where you're a fagg0t in a dress.
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 8:02 pm
by Doombrain
I’m glad you’ll never get to live out your fantasy….especially the part where you don’t break into a sweat after walking ten yards and have sex
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:16 am
by Canidae
The only thing thick in this thread is the fifth columnists
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006 3:35 am
by LawL
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I guess that means you're a four eyed fagg0t in a dress.
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:09 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
check this out...
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle ... emID=11340
there's a renewed attempt to prosecute Rumsfeld et al for war crimes using the new miltary detainee act to argue the retro immunization from war crimes prosecution, iis an effort to block prosecution and therefore they have the right to prosecute in a different country (a doctrine known as universal jurisdiction)
Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:10 am
by seremtan
nice idea, though immunizing the political culture against being infected in the first place by scumbags like rumsfeld would be more effective. judicial action, however worthy, is no substitute for political change