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Give it up, Bob and Mary Schindler.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:58 am
by The HavoX
The state's highest court dismissed the emergency petition Saturday night, saying it didn't have jurisdiction. On Thursday, the same court refused to hear the case.

The lawyer for Schiavo's parents said the legal fight to prolong the brain-damaged woman's life is drawing to an end.

This is the third legal blow Schiavo's parents have received within the course of 24 hours. Their motions were also denied earlier in the day by Circuit Court Judge George Greer in Clearwater, Florida, and Friday by the 11th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Atlanta, Georgia.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/03/26/schiavo/index.html

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:04 am
by +JuggerNaut+
oops.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:06 am
by R00k
She's going to die, one way or another, and to conservatives across the country, her death will be the fault of liberals thanks to the republicons' shrewd "framing" of the issue.

Sweet!

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:10 am
by Nightshade
This really is another example of brilliant "Republican" spin doctoring. Think about it, there's no easy way for any politician to take Michael Schiavo's side here without looking like a total ghoul.
I hate religious right-wing politicians, but I have a lot of respect for their unrivalled mastery of all things media.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:15 am
by R00k
Check this shit out.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11233240.htm
Police 'showdown' averted

BY CAROL MARBIN MILLER

cmarbin@herald.com

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.
Good ol bushie bro senior trying to send out a squad to bypass a court's order. As if it weren't all ridiculous enough already.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:40 am
by lars63
I read that just a little while ago. Unbelievable, its none of the governments business. Lord!!!!

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:12 am
by Nightshade
R00k wrote:Check this shit out.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/11233240.htm
Police 'showdown' averted

BY CAROL MARBIN MILLER

cmarbin@herald.com

Hours after a judge ordered that Terri Schiavo was not to be removed from her hospice, a team of state agents were en route to seize her and have her feeding tube reinserted -- but they stopped short when local police told them they would enforce the judge's order, The Herald has learned.

Agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park, the small town where Schiavo lies at Hospice Woodside, on Thursday that they were on the way to take her to a hospital to resume her feeding.

For a brief period, local police, who have officers at the hospice to keep protesters out, prepared for what sources called ``a showdown.''

In the end, the squad from the FDLE and the Department of Children & Families backed down, apparently concerned about confronting local police outside the hospice.

''We told them that unless they had the judge with them when they came, they were not going to get in,'' said a source with the local police.

''The FDLE called to say they were en route to the scene,'' said an official with the city police who requested anonymity. ``When the sheriff's department and our department told them they could not enforce their order, they backed off.''

The incident,known only to a few and related to The Herald by three different sources involved in Thursday's events, underscores the intense emotion and murky legal terrain that the Schiavo case has created. It also shows that agencies answering directly to Gov. Jeb Bush had planned to use a wrinkle in Florida law that would have allowed them to legally get around the judge's order. The exception in the law allows public agencies to freeze a judge's order whenever an agency appeals it.
Good ol bushie bro senior trying to send out a squad to bypass a court's order. As if it weren't all ridiculous enough already.
The Bushes, an entire family of complete cockknockers.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:17 am
by R00k
Hell, may as well call them a gang at this point. The Bush crime family, for crimes against taxpayers and the constitution.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:24 am
by Canidae
Michael Schiavo can't wait to get his hands on those millions he will get upon her death.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:43 am
by Nightshade
What millions would those be?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:57 am
by Canidae
The settlement money remaining, the interest from 13 years and the fact that Terry has been cared for for free where she is at and Medicare has been paying for the rest.
Do you honestly believe that sharks account of the money and that there is hardly any left??

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:59 am
by R00k
Oh you must know the guy personally! What's he like?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:03 am
by Nightshade
Canidae wrote:The settlement money remaining, the interest from 13 years and the fact that Terry has been cared for for free where she is at and Medicare has been paying for the rest.
Do you honestly believe that sharks account of the money and that there is hardly any left??
Hmmm, I can't speak for amounts, I've heard varying numbers. But, I've also heard that he's publically stated that he's going to give any and all remaining settlement money to charity. And he just turned down $1 million from some dude to sign over legal guardianship of his wife.

Kinda shoots your theory right in the ass, doesn't it?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:28 am
by Canidae
No it doesn't. The guy is an egotistical bastard and would never accept any money on their terms and his payoff from the settlement money is from her will when she DIES.
He'll probably go the route of a book and movies rights also that wouldn't sell well if he caved now on his version of how this has to be.
The positive cash flow begins any day now.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:46 am
by R00k
That's irrelevant -- she's been a vegetable for 15 fucking years. Do you know anybody who would still want to be kept "alive" at this stage? I don't.

And also, the simple fact of the matter is that he is her legal guardian, and legally makes that choice -- not her parents.

When you talk about motives and money all it does is cloud the issue.

If anybody can prove that he put her in a coma himself by trying to kill her, I would say he obviously doesn't have a right to the money. But even if that were the case, she should still be allowed to die after 15 years of absolutely no change in condition. It's ridiculous. You're advocating dragging out her miserable existence basically out of your own spite and that of others. Does she even figure into the picture anymore for you?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:00 am
by Massive Quasars
Canidae wrote:No it doesn't. The guy is an egotistical bastard and would never accept any money on their terms and his payoff from the settlement money is from her will when she DIES.
He'll probably go the route of a book and movies rights also that wouldn't sell well if he caved now on his version of how this has to be.
The positive cash flow begins any day now.
More non-sense from PH, nice to see you towing the party line though.

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:17 am
by dinnerdogTemp
R00k wrote:She's going to die, one way or another, and to conservatives across the country, her death will be the fault of liberals thanks to the republicons' shrewd "framing" of the issue.

Sweet!
ha, you haven't been paying attention. most of the federal judges that have passed on this issue have been Bush and Reagan appointees. One judge that wanted to re-try the case was a Clinton appointee!

Also, the bible thumpers have started to go after Jeb Bush for not doing enough to save mrs potato head. Play with fire and see who gets' burnt.

Even polls of Evangelical Christians, the bible thumpers Bush and the Republicans were trying to impress, show that most of them think its wrong for the government to impose it's will on this personel issue. You don't see Bush saying much about this issue any more do you?

Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:24 am
by Nightshade
Canidae wrote:No it doesn't. The guy is an egotistical bastard and would never accept any money on their terms and his payoff from the settlement money is from her will when she DIES.
He'll probably go the route of a book and movies rights also that wouldn't sell well if he caved now on his version of how this has to be.
The positive cash flow begins any day now.
How the hell do you profess to know anything about this guy? I wouldn't say you're dead wrong about the book/movie thing, but how the hell you spew that shit about him 'accepting any money on their terms'?
Like I said, he stated that he's going to donate all that settlement money.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 12:25 pm
by Nightshade
Hey, great rebuttal there, PH.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 1:12 pm
by R00k
Sometimes the only way you can justify your position is by making things up. I hear it even happens in Washington.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:44 pm
by The HavoX
HA-HA !

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:46 pm
by losCHUNK
isnt this like euthanasia though?

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 8:55 pm
by denzii
She died years ago.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:07 pm
by Guest
losCHUNK wrote:isnt this like euthanasia though?
No, it's like taking your brain out of your skull, liquifying the part that makes you concious, and then throwing whats left back in and keeping the body alive artificialy. It's like turning a science experiment off.

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2005 9:08 pm
by Grudge
denzii wrote:She died years ago.