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Games.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:27 am
by reefsurfer
I enjoy games for what it is.. games, an escape from reality for a few hours.
Been playing games since i was 8 years old on most gaming plattforms there is, i appreciate 95% of the games i get for what they are.. not what they could have been.
I fall in love with games all the time, the environment, the feeling, the story, the graphics, the characters, the cool weapons, the gadgets, the physics and so on.. and when i say that a game is good, i mean it.. from my point of view ofcourse, but if i sat down with a bad attitude from the beginning and started complaining about the voice characters... the lack of ability to puncture the tires of a car.. the lighting effects etc... then i would probably bash the game hard and then continue to get pissed off of all the missing features that I WOULD put into this game if I COULD PROGRAM FOR SHIT...which i cant.
I dont moan because not all the lamps on that level could be turn off or one of the a.i enemy's acted stupid nor do i whine and compare games graphically all the time.. sure i love a game that looks awsome, but thats not all to it.
I appreciate the 2+ years that a development team have put into a game that i can buy for fucking $60,wich is nothing if you count how many hours of joy you get from it.
I bitch and moan if i buy a $6000 car that dosent work properly, not because a game dident have blooming effects on the rooftop of a building.. for fucking $60.
booohoo fucking booo.
If we take o'dium as an example.. now there is a younger generation that grew up/came in contact with games when they started to look and feel good.. and what do you see, exactly, a guy that bitch and moan of every little detail on that map or that character and this looks shit and i could have done it soooo much better than a guy earning millions in his wealthy, succesful game company...
Then we have the regular comparing faggots... WTF!!!!..OMG!!111!! this game sucks because it dont have the M4 colt carbine 5.56 mm!!! that an 8 year old faggot mod called cs has..
Gears of War looks soooo much better than Halo 2.. omg omg..
UT2004 has muuuuch better ragdoll that quake 4!!!!
Rainbow six vegas dosent look as good as Gears of war... rainbow six: vegas suck!!!
Crysis uses the latest technology and looks awsome.. therefore it MUST BE THE BEST GAME EVARRRR!!!11!!!
Fuck gameplay and story... look at that directx10 effect!
WTH!..the story sucks in this game.. i have to save my girlfriend from aliens.. omg!!.. how unrealistic and childish... now lets jump into my uberkewl hoovercraft and shoot a goat in the ass with a laserbeam...
And for crying out loud.. lets not forget the people that want realism (because they been there..done that) down to the fucking wrinkle on the pants.
They bitch and moan about how the order system sucks or that a.i charcter wouldent do it like that in real life or this weapon has awhole other recoil when i shoot with it back at my hillbilly farm....
Strangely enough they dont bitch when they respawn 10 seconds after they died... because THATS REALISTIC!!
Would be awsome if a game got released with uber realism and everythign was like in real life... and BAM when you died in the game it would delete the entire game and destroy your cdkey making it impossible to ever play again... but why.. boohoo.. because you wanted realism BITCH!
and so on and so on... this constant bashing, complaining, moaning and comparing.. of a $60 product that your supposed to enjoy and have fun with?
If the games suck so fucking much and the graphics is shitty...
A.) dont fucking play games
B.) knock yourself into a coma and stay there for 15 years until the graphics have reached your standard.
C.) Produce better yourself.
BLÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ!!!!
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Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:30 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:31 am
by reefsurfer
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
OMFG!!!!1111!!!.. the lightning effect on that whale SUCKS!!!.. omg!, im so returning that shit game to the store.. whatch me, here i go!
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:32 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
i didn't read that but here...

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:04 am
by Captain
Reef must have a pretty shitty reality if he's gaming 23/7.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:20 am
by andyman
what thread caused this?
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:23 am
by Tormentius
andyman wrote:what thread caused this?
I dunno but its the most sense he's made in a long time. Good rant reef :icon14:
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:25 am
by andyman
agreed
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:46 am
by mjrpes
Lor' luv a duck! I enjoy games fer what i' is.. Games, an escape from reali'y fer a few 'aaahrs. Been playin' games since i was T an' H years old on most gamin' plattfawms there is, i appreciate 95% ov da games i get fer what they are.. Not what they could 'ave been. I fall in love wiv games all da time, da environmun', da feeling, da story, da graphics, da characters, da smelly weapons, da gadgets, da physics an' so on.. An' when i say what a game is bee's knees, i sean bean it.. From my poin' ov view ofcaaahrse, but if i sat down wiv a bad attitude from da beginnin' an' started complainin' abaaaht da voice characters... Da lack ov abili'y ter puncture da tires ov a car.. Da lightin' effects etc... Then i would probably bash da game 'ard an' then continue ter get pissed off ov all da missin' features what I WOULD put in'er dis game if I COULD PROGRAM FOR SHIT...which i cant. I don' moan because not all da lamps on what level could be turn off awer one ov da a.i enemy's acted stupid nor do i whine an' compare games graphically all da time.. Sure i love a game what looks awsome, but thats not all ter it. I appreciate da 2+ years what a developmen' team 'ave put in'er a game what i can buy fer fuckin' $60,wich is jack if yew coun' 'ow many 'aaahrs ov joy yew get from it. I bitch an' moan if i buy a $6000 car what dosen' work proper, not because a game diden' 'ave bloomin' effects on da rooftop ov a building.. Fer fuckin' $60. booohoo fuckin' booo. If we take o'dium as an example.. Now there is a younger generashun what grew up/came in contact wiv games when they started ter look an' feel bee's knees.. An' what do yew see, exactly, a guy what bitch an' moan ov every little detail on what map awer what character an' dis looks diddily squit an' i could 'ave done i' soooo rabi' 'utch be'er van a guy earnin' millions in 'is wealthy, succesful game company... Then we 'ave da regular comparin' faggots... WTF!!!!..OMG!!111!. Dis game sucks because i' don' 'ave da M4 cow' carbine 5.56 mm!!. What an T an' H year old faggot mod called cs 'as.. Gears ov War looks soooo rabi' 'utch be'er van Halo 2.. Omg omg.. UT2004 'as muuuuch be'er ragdoll what quake 4!!!! Rainbow six vegas dosen' look as bee's knees as Gears ov war... Rainbow six: vegas suck!!! Crysis uses da latest technology an' looks awsome.. Therefawer i' MUST BE THE BEST GAME EVARRRR!!!11!!! Fuck gameplay an' story... Look at what directxCockle Cock an' Hen effect! WTH!..da story sucks in dis game.. I 'ave ter save my girlfriend from aliens.. Omg!!.. 'ow unrealistic an' childish... Now lets jump in'er my uberkewl 'oovercraft an' shoot a goat in da myleene klass wiv a laserbeam... And fer cryin' aaaht loud.. Lets not forget da people what wan' realism (because they been there..done that) down ter da fuckin' wrinkle on da pants. They bitch an' moan abaaaht 'ow da order system sucks awer what a.i charcter woulden' do i' like what in real life awer dis weapon 'as awhole uvver recoil when i shoot wiv i' back at my 'illbilly farm.... Strangely enuff they don' bitch when they respawn Cockle Cock an' Hen seconds after they died... Because THATS REALISTIC!! Would be awsome if a game got released wiv uber realism an' everythign was like in real life... An' BAM when yew died in da game i' would delete da entire game an' destroy yaaahr cdkey makin' i' impossible ter ever play again... But why.. Boohoo.. Because yew wan'ed realism BITCH! and so on an' so on... Dis constan' bashing, complaining, moanin' an' comparing.. Ov a $60 product what yaaahr supposed ter enjoy an' 'ave fun wiv? If da games suck so fuckin' rabi' 'utch an' da graphics is diddily squitty... A.) don' fuckin' play games B.) knock yaaahrself in'er a coma an' stay there fer 15 years until da graphics 'ave reached yaaahr standard. C.) Produce be'er yaaahrself. BLÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ!!!! . Know what I mean?
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:53 am
by andyman
yarr
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:56 am
by tnf
There's a difference between bitching and moaning about irrelevant shit and pointing out legitimate things that would have been worth addressing on the developers end.
The selling point of the 360 was its 'next-gen' status. Why the hell buy it if the games aren't living up to that? And I don't think a lot of them are. Of course the gameplay element has to be there, and gameplay trumps specular highlights or whatever the fuck they are called, but the 360 has the ability to give you both and I don't see why devs shouldn't be giving us both with the hardware they now have to work with. Granted, its still somewhat early in the life of the 360, but there has been some absolute shit already released and a whole lot of mediocrity, and a few stellar games. Games are big business now...they are supposed to offer an almost cinematic experience on the latest hardware. Wanting to hear voice acting that doesn't sound like a shitty high school drama production isn't too irrational of an expectation.
And as for my 'rant' about Rainbow six vegas - there is no getting around the fact that the tactical aspects of the SP missions suck balls. Does it mean the game is shit? No. But what has drawn me to the rainbow games in the past is being able to control my team, have them storm the south doors while I come through the north, etc., etc...and you can't do that now.
Now, I think its ironic that reef posts a thread like this, because he's describing the person that is the exact opposite of him...the constant complainer about trivial shit vs. the guy who creams his pants before the release of every fucking game that crosses his monitor and goes on about how absolutely awesome they are going to be. Both are similar in a somewhat ironic sense - they base their initial opinions on things with very little merit.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:38 am
by Captain
Sounds like reef has a split identity that's slighty better than his real self but nonetheless still a shitty being.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:48 am
by tnf
He makes a good point overall about trivial complaints, but not all complaints are trivial.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 3:53 am
by Captain
He's always labeled himself as someone who automatically leg-humps the latest games, so his point is lost just contradicting his own forum persona. Just my thought.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:56 am
by reefsurfer
Captain Mazda wrote:He's always labeled himself as someone who automatically leg-humps the latest games, so his point is lost just contradicting his own forum persona. Just my thought.
And you're labeled as someone who is posting nonsense and boring shit in almost every thread every day.. just to raise your postcount.
Because seriously, you post alot.
http://www.quake3world.com/forum/search ... tain+Mazda
14.83 posts per day
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:01 am
by MKJ
is this a reaction to tnf's RB6V thread?
did reef make this game that he takes it so personally?
im sure he'll feel different in 2 months, when the next big marketed game arrives :icon32:
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:11 pm
by reefsurfer
MKJ wrote:is this a reaction to tnf's RB6V thread?
did reef make this game that he takes it so personally?
im sure he'll feel different in 2 months, when the next big marketed game arrives :icon32:
I probably will.. because, as i said, i fall in love with games.. and i get bored after a few months(sure some have kept me longer.. Q3A, GRAW, DoD etc) and gets equally happy when i find a new game that is awsome.
The next games im longing for is Army of Two, Bioshock and Stranglehold.. and im sure i will post a thread about how awsome they are.
So?
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:16 pm
by Captain
So this is your way of coming out of the pixel closet.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:26 pm
by reefsurfer
Captain Mazda wrote:So this is your way of coming out of the pixel closet.
Seriously, your not funny and you cant flame for shit.. all i ever see is you posting shit to raise your postcount.
You never have any opinions of your own and you always follow up someone elses post/flame with an "extra" flame.. which is no funny, not disturbing and in no way ownage/crushed worthy.
Your ugly, finish and posting on a forum about your awsome party's with "bitches" that dont even look at you.
You're so awsome...
No flame or rant or anything.. but please, fuck off and stfu.
ps. dont think i havent noticed how you spellcheck EVERY post of yours so you might look like the king of the english language.
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:35 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
i ceen speel!
Pust Cunt +1
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:54 pm
by MKJ
reefsurfer wrote:MKJ wrote:is this a reaction to tnf's RB6V thread?
did reef make this game that he takes it so personally?
im sure he'll feel different in 2 months, when the next big marketed game arrives :icon32:
I probably will.. because, as i said, i fall in love with games.. and i get bored after a few months(sure some have kept me longer.. Q3A, GRAW, DoD etc) and gets equally happy when i find a new game that is awsome.
The next games im longing for is Army of Two, Bioshock and Stranglehold.. and im sure i will post a thread about how awsome they are.
So?
'So' nothing. was just wondering if this was a retaliation to tnfs antithetic thread.
im like you, i need to have most of the games out there for about the same reasons, its a great escapist way which is also quite enjoyable - and has more social aspects to it than people think.
i do however look at it at a more sober perspective, that is that I don't classify every new game as teh greatest gaem evar. au contraire, my lifelong obsession with the medium and especially the last few mainstream years made me more cynical and less subjective to screenshots and flashy trailer movies (even if it is 'in-engine'). almost jaded, if you will :icon32:
but it paid off, sort of, cause i got paid for my opinion :icon25:
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:10 pm
by seremtan
i'm posting in a thread about games on a game forum
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:13 pm
by MKJ
nerd 
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:29 pm
by Ryoki
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:30 pm
by reefsurfer
MKJ wrote:
i do however look at it at a more sober perspective, that is that I don't classify every new game as teh greatest gaem evar. au contraire, my lifelong obsession with the medium and especially the last few mainstream years made me more cynical and less subjective
Neither do i MKJ, i got a shitload of games, i havent posted about all of them when they were new... or praised them all.
I bought Tony hawk P8 the other day.. havent said a thing about it, the same with Red orchestra, SWAT 4 expansion, Battlefield 2: modern combat and so on...
I dont post about all games i buy and especially not the ones i dislike.
Sure i praise Gears of War, Brothers in arms, Rainbow six vegas, Hitman, Call of duty 3, Joint operations and the likes, but its noway near the amount of games i bought and could have posted about.
What i think it all comes down to is, i guess i have lower standards on games than most people today..
or its like with movie critics, they just HAVE to critisize a regular Hollywood action film and instead praise a yugoslavian documentary about a guy making clay dolls because they are afraid of looking dumb and uneducated.
I love a popcorn flick with nonstop action, tits and gallons of blood... awsome, resting my brain for 2 hours nonstop and just enjoying... but if i had to watch a fucking documentary about a guy making clay dolls and then say its AWSOME... i would be lying, but i might look smart.. eeh?