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Paint disaster
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:28 am
by demonglitter
Yesterday I painted two rooms in my house with waterbased paint, not knowing that the previous paint was oilbased. My question is what is the best way to get the waterbased paint off before it starts peeling, but the hard part is that I have a textured wall with alot of grooves. I think that this is a disaster, if any one could offer some help it would be appreciated.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:35 am
by AmIdYfReAk
Paintstore
Paintstripper would make short work of it though....
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:37 am
by Tsakali_
ouch
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:38 am
by Underpants?
You're absolutely right, that would certainly qualify as a disaster.
How did you find out about the oil-based paint? contact a previous owner or sommat?
Well, most likely you're going to have a mess either way. You could use a mucosa-raping rancid solvent, but I would sand it until the previous coat just begins to get some shine on, then re-paint with another oil-based paint.
Good luck, real sorry to hear about your situation.
You filthy, home-improving gutter slut.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:39 am
by Nightshade
2500 psi pressure washer with a 15 degree nozzle. Take the paint AND the texture off the wall.

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:53 am
by demonglitter
Yes I contacted the people who sold me the house, they informed me that the paint was oilbased. The paint is not peeling yet but i know its just a matter of time. I dont mind doing the work but I just want to figure out the easiest non-messy way to fix this fast. I have three weeks to make this room look like brand new...before i get an "I told you so"
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:59 am
by Pete
It doesn’t make sense to strip it all off. Wait t’ill it dry, and may be ( I wish it for you ) that it will be ok, especially if you took the time to sand it first. May be, having a textured wall with a lot of grooves can help too.
Forgot to mention. The room temperature should be around 70/80F without humidity. Better dry then humid.
I am sure you will do fine.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:03 am
by Tsakali_
I don't see why he would sand it first... he prolly didn't
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:16 am
by Pete
Tsakali_ wrote:I don't see why he would sand it first... he prolly didn't
I’ve paint may be more then 100 times t’ill now, because my father owns apt buildings for 35 years. The professional way to do a good paint job ( not a blow job ), is to first, wash, patch all the holes, scratches, with mud, then sand, then prime ( special primer for the repairs ). One prime coat, two finish coats.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:30 am
by Tsakali_
I know that if you mud or spakle some areas you need to sand, yes, but sanding off the old layer of paint seems masochistic
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:41 am
by Pete
Tsakali_ wrote:I know that if you mud or spakle some areas you need to sand, yes, but sanding off the old layer of paint seems masochistic

With this you can do it within 10 mnts..
And I didn't mean to sand/srape it all off, just scrath it a bit, just sand it.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:48 am
by Unisaw
I'm going out on a limb but it I'll say "It doesn't matter". A Google search comes up with this gem from the Paint Quality Institute:
The rule of thumb is that, given proper surface preparation, for exterior use you can apply quality latex paints over oil-based, but not the reverse. However, if you have many layers of oil based paint, stick to using oil on oil. For interior use, generally you can use one over the other. Some manufacturers of latex products will recommend a primer when going over oil-based paint.
I've painted a lot of walls and never had an adhesion problem.
http://www.paintquality.com/faq/Exterio ... aints.html
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:50 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
I'd have to agree. If it didn't sheet and fold when you applied it and it has dried then you really have no problem.
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:19 am
by YourGrandpa
Let the water base dry.
Prep the wall with a little sanding.
Remove dust.
Paint with Killz.
Re-paint with any paint you want.
Done....
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:30 am
by Berserker
Let the water base dry.
Prep the wall with a little sanding.
Remove dust.
Paint with Killz.
Re-paint with any paint you want.
Done....
Now get to work.
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Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:11 am
by MKJ
semenspitter 
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:01 pm
by puffalufagus
i gotta paint the whole house inside and out...recommend a good sprayer?
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:12 pm
by plained
i dont think i would like useing a sprayer for interiors
buy some real costly rollers, those do a real nice job

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:23 pm
by seremtan
puffalufagus wrote:i gotta paint the whole house inside and out...recommend a good sprayer?
yeah i know a guy called geoff who'll do it for free

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:48 pm
by Tsakali_
plained wrote:i dont think i would like useing a sprayer for interiors
buy some real costly rollers, those do a real nice job

heh yeah they got those sheep wool rollers (or something to that effect) I heard they are top notch
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 4:51 pm
by puffalufagus
plained wrote:i dont think i would like useing a sprayer for interiors
buy some real costly rollers, those do a real nice job

maybe...but i'm not gonna paint the outside with rollers...especially where the electricity connects to the house...wagner sprayers fine?
Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:14 pm
by Tsakali_
go rent you a pro's tool, none of that shit you see advertised on tv.
you should be looking for something like this

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:28 am
by demonglitter
Thanks you guys, you've been alot of help (especially pete). Its been two weekends ago and the paint is holding up very well. No scratches or drips or anything. I have to do the living room and kitchen once I have my boyfriend home to help me, but I think I will take a little extra precautions there. Thanks so much. :icon25:
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:00 am
by Doombrain
all you need to do is fucking key the paint with some sandpaper
