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Curveball
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:02 pm
by Ryoki
Jesus christ, it's like a bad remake of Dr. Strangelove based in reality... :icon19:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/internat ... ?gusrc=rss
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:06 pm
by Ryoki
Some snippets:
"According to a US presidential commission looking into pre-war intelligence failures, the basis for pivotal intelligence on Iraq's alleged biological weapons programmes and fleet of mobile labs was a spy described as 'crazy' by his intelligence handlers and a 'congenital liar' by his friends."
and my favourite bit:
"The commission concluded that Curveball's information was worse than none at all. "
:icon19:
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:06 pm
by Geebs
described as 'crazy' by his intelligence handlers and a 'congenital liar' by his friends.
"friends", huh?
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:08 pm
by Guest
curveball? They called their intelligence report curvball? Fuck why didn't they just call it bullshit.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:09 pm
by Arkleseizure
Er...nothing like Dr. Stranglove, unless there was a cowboy.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:15 pm
by Ryoki
Kracus wrote:curveball? They called their intelligence report curvball? Fuck why didn't they just call it bullshit.
No, the guy's codename was Curveball
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:16 pm
by Ryoki
Arkleseizure wrote:Er...nothing like Dr. Stranglove, unless there was a cowboy.
What i mean is it's so completely, utterly ridiculously absurd.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:18 pm
by Guest
Ryoki wrote:Kracus wrote:curveball? They called their intelligence report curvball? Fuck why didn't they just call it bullshit.
No, the guy's codename was Curveball
Well... It's a pretty stupid fucking choice isn't it? Or maybe it wasn't. It just seems to read like something out of a dick tracy flick.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:20 pm
by Arkleseizure
Ryoki wrote:Arkleseizure wrote:Er...nothing like Dr. Stranglove, unless there was a cowboy.
What i mean is it's so completely, utterly ridiculously absurd.
Makes perfect sense.
'We were going to release the doomsday device at the next party meeting!'
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:07 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Don't fool yourselves. The U.S. wasn't taken in. The entire case for war was manufactured (poorly).
It's unfortunate that the public is so trusting when it comes to such important issues.
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:26 pm
by Guest
IT WAS CALLED CURVEBALL!!!!
Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:50 pm
by 4days
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Don't fool yourselves. The U.S. wasn't taken in. The entire case for war was manufactured (poorly).
It's unfortunate that the public is so trusting when it comes to such important issues.
aye - are the current administration imbeciles, liars, despots or all of the above? ultimately they're never going to be slowly decapitated, which is the only acceptable end to this situation.
things are the same over here, blaming shitty intelligence and absolving the government of guilt. sometimes i wish i could be arsed to record the news, just so that at times like this i could watch the playback of george tenet saying words to the effect of "this is bullshit, and i'm going to end up carrying the can for it" or that MI5 guy interviewed on london bridge complaining that the intelligence they were actually providing (and which he obviously couldn't reveal) was being completely ignored in favour of a highly publicised report someone had cooked up based on an old college essay.