Quake3World

It doesn't seem to be posted here yet. Have a peek at Id's new engine right here. The site is in Dutch but the movie is in English.

A bit of a mixed up post in GD... half of it's about the Mac WWDC07 conference, the rest about Id Tech 5.

http://www.quake3world.com/forum/viewto ... sc&start=0

Good to have a second post in LEM though, but this may bring people up to speed.

What studio in their right minds is going to want to take the time and resources to paint unique textures for every map in their game?

Heh, that's what I said, but then again, what do *we* know?

I'm sure it won't be that bad, really. Sleep is so overrated anyway.

wviperw wrote:Heh, that's what I said, but then again, what do *we* know?

You know *exactly* what "unique" means in the context of what the tech is about, and it's not what people keep thinking it is (oohh that was quite cryptic, heh!)

Lunaran wrote:What studio in their right minds is going to want to take the time and resources to paint unique textures for every map in their game?

Erm, it doesn't work that way at all. You paint a base texture, usualy a basic setup of a theme, and then procedural takes care of the rest of the textures in that style.

You end up painting a handful of textures, making a base theme, and then letting the engine do the rest. You don't sit and paint 20gig's worth of texture.

Kat wrote:(oohh that was quite cryptic, heh!)

I like this thread. Favourite one in a long time.

Clearly you just feed the engine some parameters and it creates the game for you. This is the future people!

rgoer wrote:o'dium that couldn't be more wrong

it's just a streaming algorithm

The whole point of procedural texturing is that they are made on the fly, with set parameters. However, they work best when you combine them with ready made art. That’s how you get set patterns and the like easier.

How is that wrong?

You guys are talking about different things.

This was about the new tech that allows '20Gb unique textures' or whatever across the entire game area. Now odium you're talking about procedural texture generation, but I can't find a single mention of that in any of these threads, videos or articles except from you.

Anyway, I've not seen procedural texturing applied to generating large environments.

The procedural texturing I know is for creating basic texture assets without using a rigidly defined raster file, but rather you use an algorithm to generate effects such as wood, stone or metal. This doesn't really have any relation to filling out an environment with unique and varied textures... so unless you're talking about something different or can link me to something explaining some kind of macro implementation of procedural texturing and how it would apply.... then I'm not seeing the connection to any of this.

No, its ok, for some reason, I suddenly started thinking that Mega Texture was procedural.. I have no fucking clue why seeing as I've been working with Mega Texture these past few months myself... Quite surprised now that I read it, it was an obvious mistake.

o'dium wrote:No, its ok, for some reason, I suddenly started thinking that Mega Texture was procedural..

That's what everyones been doing. A common mistake/misconception

rgoer wrote:naming some feature "mega texture" in your homebrew engine doesn't make it the same thing, o'dium

Erm, no, but working with a stripped down lower res version of it that was included in Doom 3, DOES.