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http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.htm ... page_id=34

Sounds like they won't keep the contents of the call, but but everything else will stay on record for police searches.

For terrorism, you know.

correct me if i'm wrong, but dosent the US allready do that?

Yeah, but he is talking about Britain.

Cant see it being a problem, its only a problem if you do something stupid.

Same reason I believe all Brits should have his/her DNA on record. As soon as you come into the UK, you give it up. Simple as that. That will help a shit ton.

AmIdYfReAk wrote:correct me if i'm wrong, but dosent the US allready do that?

Yea, I believe so.

o'dium wrote:Cant see it being a problem, its only a problem if you do something stupid.

Same reason I believe all Brits should have his/her DNA on record. As soon as you come into the UK, you give it up. Simple as that. That will help a shit ton.

That's the reason I never visit or call the US, or never will.

o'dium wrote:Cant see it being a problem, its only a problem if you do something stupid.

And you don't see a problem with this line of thinking?

doesn't this belong in the police state thread?...

Fucking disgusting

Also I remember watching a crapumentary about CCTV operators in London and at one point they commented on some guy in a business suit and briefcase running on the sidewalk with something like, "Well at first we were skeptical of this man since he was running suspiciously so we kept track of him and deduced that he was probably late for work. Can never be too sure."

Nightshade wrote:

o'dium wrote:Cant see it being a problem, its only a problem if you do something stupid.

And you don't see a problem with this line of thinking?

Quick, argue his point, its o'dium!

Listen here matey boy, I dont see a problem at all. So what if all my phone calls are recorded (As in, numbers, not actual calls). Who cares? The simple truth is if you have something to hide, there is cause for concern.

Will it stop you cheating on your wife?

Will it stop you ringing up for a pizza when your supposed to be on a diet?

No? Oh right ok then.

But will it stop you threatening people? How about making terrorist style calls, bomb threats? What about if your wife was raped, and he planned it, calling her? If all this is on record, its an easy check. I cant say how the current police checks of phone records work but I bet they are not fast at all. Some kind of central network with all this info sounds a normal idea.

Like I said, the same with DNA. If I cheat on my wife with a 18 year old toy boy named Jimmy, who cares? The police? The secret tin foil hat men? No, thats right, nobody. Its my call to make and as long as I don't break the law, I'm fine.

But if some dirty bastard comes into my country, rapes my wife, and then spends the next 2 years on the run... What choice do we have? We would have DNA proof of who did it, but no match? With everybody on record, its just a quick check to narrow down the search wouldn't you say?

Honestly, its your kind of tin foil hat attitude that messes decisions like this up.

I'm all for phone records being stored and DNA profiles of everybody. Bring it on. Anything that helps me knowthat if somebody fucks up, they will NOT get away with it just by doing a runner.

i love authoritarian enablers/followers...but not in a gay way...

o'dium wrote: Quick, argue his point, its o'dium!

Listen here matey boy, I dont see a problem at all. So what if all my phone calls are recorded (As in, numbers, not actual calls). Who cares? The simple truth is if you have something to hide, there is cause for concern.

Will it stop you cheating on your wife?

Will it stop you ringing up for a pizza when your supposed to be on a diet?

No? Oh right ok then.

But will it stop you threatening people? How about making terrorist style calls, bomb threats? What about if your wife was raped, and he planned it, calling her? If all this is on record, its an easy check. I cant say how the current police checks of phone records work but I bet they are not fast at all. Some kind of central network with all this info sounds a normal idea.

Like I said, the same with DNA. If I cheat on my wife with a 18 year old toy boy named Jimmy, who cares? The police? The secret tin foil hat men? No, thats right, nobody. Its my call to make and as long as I don't break the law, I'm fine.

But if some dirty bastard comes into my country, rapes my wife, and then spends the next 2 years on the run... What choice do we have? We would have DNA proof of who did it, but no match? With everybody on record, its just a quick check to narrow down the search wouldn't you say?

Honestly, its your kind of tin foil hat attitude that messes decisions like this up.

I'm all for phone records being stored and DNA profiles of everybody. Bring it on. Anything that helps me knowthat if somebody fucks up, they will NOT get away with it just by doing a runner.

Jesus, wind your fucking neck back in, nimrod.
I don't have a 'tinfoil hat attitude', you moron. I just don't want the government keeping fucking tabs on everything I do. It's your sort of bend over and grab your ankles mentality that's going to allow Big Brother and the Thought Police to monitor every single thing that you do and say, from what books you check out of the library to your bank transactions and medical records. But who cares, right? It's only a problem if you do something wrong.

Well, yes, it IS only a problem if you do something wrong.

Are you really that fucking paranoid you CARE?

BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!! Oh shit!!

Well good. I get a boner when people watch. Bring it.

Do you really have no care for your own privacy? What about when the government finds out that you stuck it up your wife's ass? Is that a problem? What if you say that the Queen's a dyke and they kick your door in because you bent over and allowed them to monitor all your phone conversations?

Nightshade wrote: It's only a problem if you do something wrong.

classic authoritarian follower speak...

Nightshade wrote:Do you really have no care for your own privacy? What about when the government finds out that you stuck it up your wife's ass? Is that a problem? What if you say that the Queen's a dyke and they kick your door in because you bent over and allowed them to monitor all your phone conversations?

Jesus christ, put away the tin foil hat mate

So you went from me saying its ok to record phone NUMBERS and DNA, all the way to its ok for them to record what you SAY on the phone and watching me have sex.

Nice one mate. Let me guess, your next post will either be a spelling flame, or a "funny" take on my o'dium Q3W name!

No no, don't stop now, you only just started to make a twat of yourself.

riddla wrote:o'deedumb

Sorry NS, looks like riddla beat you to the punch on the name thing, but you still have other options

lol odium is gay...

A/S/L?

scared? wrote:

Nightshade wrote: It's only a problem if you do something wrong.

classic authoritarian follower speak...

Hey dumbfuck, did you happen to notice that I was quoting o'dium there? Put down the bong, moron.

o'dium wrote:

Nightshade wrote:Do you really have no care for your own privacy? What about when the government finds out that you stuck it up your wife's ass? Is that a problem? What if you say that the Queen's a dyke and they kick your door in because you bent over and allowed them to monitor all your phone conversations?

Jesus christ, put away the tin foil hat mate

So you went from me saying its ok to record phone NUMBERS and DNA, all the way to its ok for them to record what you SAY on the phone and watching me have sex.

Nice one mate. Let me guess, your next post will either be a spelling flame, or a "funny" take on my o'dium Q3W name!

No no, don't stop now, you only just started to make a twat of yourself.

Jesus, wake the fuck up. I live in the US, do you not see that I may have a bit of awareness of how these things proceed? It's called the gradual erosion of your civil liberties, and shit like this is how it starts.
But, you seem rather happy with your head stuck in the sand. Just don't be surprised when the government slams it balls deep in your ass because you're already bent over.

R00k wrote:http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=68143&in_page_id=34

Sounds like they won't keep the contents of the call, but but everything else will stay on record for police searches.

For terrorism, you know.

A Home Office spokesman said the law followed a directive from the EU.

and there it is - the big excuse. whenever the government does something stupid or unpopular "it wuz da EU wot done it!"

No worries seremtan, it's only a problem if you do something wrong.

o'dium wrote:Same reason I believe all Brits should have his/her DNA on record. As soon as you come into the UK, you give it up. Simple as that. That will help a shit ton.

this is the reason why i think some people just shouldn't be allowed to vote

Nightshade wrote:No worries seremtan, it's only a problem if you do something wrong.

so, let's sit down and define "wrong" shall we?

yeah, right. there's the problem people who adopt the it's-ok-if-you've-got-nothing-to-hide argument ignore, the question of what is defined as wrong, and who defines it

it's especially galling coming from the UK government, which is one of the most secretive governments on earth outside of fucking north korea or some similar shithole