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				Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:39 pm
				by megami
				http://www.epa.gov/cleanrgy/powerprofiler.htm
Something useful from the EPA these days, amazing!  
 
 
It lets you see from what sources your power company gets its energy, and the percentages compared to the national average. Also gives emissions compared nationally as well.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:50 pm
				by Fender
				I knew my area would be bad:
non-hydro renewables: 0% vs 2% national
hydro: 1% vs 7% national
nuclear: 23% vs 20% national
oil: 0% vs 3% national
gas: 2% vs 17% national
coal: 73% vs 50% national
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 11:55 pm
				by Grandpa Stu
				my area get's 49% of it's energy from hydro.  because of that everything else is below the national average and we have relatively low emissions as well.  it's nothing to really brag about though because instead of emissions we screw over natural habitats and wild life with our dams.  gg salmon.
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:51 am
				by Cooldown
				45% Coal
38% Nuclear
hmmm
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:59 am
				by megami
				Forgot mine!
Gas: 46%
Hydro: 15%
Nuclear: 14%
Coal: 14%
Non-hydro renewables: 10%
Oil: 1%
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:56 am
				by Wizard .3
				Living in Quebec right now. Can't give you the exact percentage, but I know for sure that almost all of the power in the province is produced through hydro. Every river is dammed up here..
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:13 pm
				by Nightshade
				40% nuclear, 51% coal, the rest negligible. Not too bad, but nowhere near good enough.
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:21 pm
				by Dr_Watson
				Nuke - 27%
Hydro - 26%
Coal - 25%
Gas - 13%
Oil - 7%
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What's really fucked up about the above is that i can see Niagara falls from my house. 
but those figures are only for the general grid, we pay extra to get 100% renewable.
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:24 pm
				by Ryoki
				Shame this doesn't work in Europe, i have no idea where the power comes from here. Gas, probably.
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:29 pm
				by Dr_Watson
				you don't get a breakdown on your billing statement? (i do)
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:33 pm
				by Ryoki
				It could be, i've never checked... bill gets paid automatically every other month.
Silly question probably: is the energy market in the US privatised or public?
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:40 pm
				by werldhed
				Non-hydro renewables: 2%
Hydro: 5%
Nuclear: 16%
Gas: 2%
Oil: 1%
Coal: 75%
Ugh...  pretty awful, considering it is MN and I live not far from the St Anthony Falls dam on the Mississippi and one of the major midwest nuclear plants is about 45 minutes away.  But then again, Northern States Power is a notoriously terrible power company (see my post about them blocking wind power 
here).
 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:46 pm
				by Denz
				Non-Hydro 2%
Hydro 49%
Nuclear 4%
Oil 0%
Gas 11%
Coal 34%
I guess Hydro would be the best out of all of those options. I win. 

 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 2:57 pm
				by bitWISE
				Fender wrote:I knew my area would be bad:
non-hydro renewables: 0% vs 2% national
hydro: 1% vs 7% national
nuclear: 23% vs 20% national
oil: 0% vs 3% national
gas: 2% vs 17% national
coal: 73% vs 50% national
same
 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 3:03 pm
				by werldhed
				Denz wrote:Non-Hydro 2%
Hydro 49%
Nuclear 4%
Oil 0%
Gas 11%
Coal 34%
I guess Hydro would be the best out of all of those options. I win. 

 
Technically, I think non-hydro would be the best, but you get brownie points anyway.  

 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 4:10 pm
				by Fender
				Ryoki wrote:Silly question probably: is the energy market in the US privatised or public?
Generally they are very heavily regulated private companies.  I believe co-ops are becoming more popular, where all the citizens of the city are part owner, or something like that.
 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:26 pm
				by JulesWinnfield
				Baltimore
Coal: 45%
Nuclear: 38%
Gas: 10%
Oil: 3%
Hydro: 2%
Non-Hydro: 1%
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 6:27 pm
				by JulesWinnfield
				Cooldown wrote:45% Coal
38% Nuclear
hmmm
America - fuck yeah!
 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:46 pm
				by Dave
				Hydro power ain't exactly a winner either.  Wind and solar seem to be the best long-term solutions.  I think wind is the most interesting one
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:54 pm
				by nay0k
				Non-Hydro renewables - 5%
Hydro - 0%
Nuclear - 0%
Oil - 58%
Gas - 35%
Coal - 0%

 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:19 pm
				by Dr_Watson
				Dave wrote:Hydro power ain't exactly a winner either.  Wind and solar seem to be the best long-term solutions.  I think wind is the most interesting one
and what exactly is the bad side of the Niagara Hydro Facility?
 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:30 pm
				by creep
				Probably the fact that niagara falls only exists in one place.  I think his point was aimed at "hydro as a general solution", meaning that to get more hydro power in more places, things would have to be affected.
			 
			
					
				Re: Pretty useful site for US users (Power sources)
				Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:38 pm
				by werldhed
				Aye.  Generally, hydro is harnessed via damming, and that can have a number of detrimental effects.
In terms of the Niagara Hydro project, I don't know many of the details, but doesn't that also operate as a dam?  Also, I seem to remember hearing about some population displacement occurring.  
