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Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:52 pm
by Foo
That's unusual.
It could be an erroneus message. On the other hand it could be a failing drive that hasn't quite died yet.
The best step is probably going to be to take it into the shop and have them ID the drive that is causing the issue, then swap it with another identical drive to see if it clears it up.
It's not uncommon for a new hard drive to die in the first few months of use.... so given it's a new system this seems the most likely source of the problem.
You're right though, you would expect a little more info than 'system functioning normally' from the storage manager

Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 8:42 pm
by Whiskey 7
Many thanks Foo for confirming my suspicions
Foo wrote: ..... not uncommon for a new hard drive to die in the first few months of use.... so given it's a new system this seems the most likely source of the problem.
Yes I never thought of that.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 9:02 pm
by creep
In that 2nd SS... if you click on "Volume 0", what shows up in the right pane? Do you see all 3 drives?
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:46 am
by creep
praise samsung.
I have the same one, it's awesome.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:52 am
by Whiskey 7
creep wrote:praise samsung.
I have the same one, it's awesome.
Yes indeedy
Even my not so old rig that I am on now has the Sync Master 930BF - 19"
Really, I have never looked at another monitor since these Samsung beauties came along
WD Samsung 
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 7:59 am
by AmIdYfReAk
i know this sounds Stupid, But Can you unplug the SATA-DVD-RW Drive and See if the error pop's up?
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 8:37 am
by Whiskey 7
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 6:37 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
W00t great to hear mang, enjoy the new Rig

Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:02 am
by Whiskey 7
AmIdYfReAk wrote:W00t great to hear mang, enjoy the new Rig

Thanks AmIdYfReAk. I am not doing too bad, probably got back to work on 2 Jan
PC = Grrr, had to take it back to the shop.
Bloody thing always locked up towards the end of the RAID build, got to the stage it wasn't even going to boot...
I was able to load up my UT3 for a lookie while it was building the raid anyway so I got to look at it in all its splendor.
I took it back two days ago and visited the patient this morning. They have tried everything apparently and are now in the process of swapping mother boards ) P35C-DS3R (
They thought it was the (64) Vista doing it, but loaded up XP and it is doing the same thing, locking up XP at 99%.
Luckily I have my original PC here to play with. Might get my newie in a day or two
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 6:35 am
by AmIdYfReAk
or i think its time to go to a diffrent PC Shop, or build it your self.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:22 pm
by Whiskey 7
Hey just to catch up here, said I would... and a question at the end 
The shop got 3 new HDDs in and fitted them and all is working OK - HOORAY
I guess one was stuffed although they said they used some sort of software to check 'em out before initial install.
Perhaps it was a batch thing? I don't know.
New rig is great. Lots of time spent installing stuff and 64 bit Vista seems OK (so far). One or two driver issues but no big deal.
Love the monitor. I loaded up TF2 the other day and it has a whole new complexion. The Crysis demo too is something else.
System specs/configuration:
* Intel S775 Core 2 Q6600 Quad-Core CPU
* Gigabyte P35C-DS3R Motherboard
* DDR2 4GB Geil 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 Kit
* 3x 320GB Western Digital YS 7200rpm 16M SATA HDDs
* 1 x 320GB Western Digital YS 7200rpm 16M SATA HDD for data and backups
* ASUS 8800GTS 512M PCIe Video Card
* 24" Samsung 245B LCD Monitor (BEAUTIFUL)
* Antec P182 Performance One Case
* Antec Neo Power 650 Watt ATX Power Supply Ver 2.2 EPS 12V
* Utopia M Multimedia 101 Keyboard PS2 Black
* Utopia Optical Mouse PS2 Black
* Pioneer DVD Multi Rewriter SATA 18 Dual layer Black
* Logitech Speakers and Headset
* MSI Video Webcam
No OC - Don't plan to. 3DMark results - 11643.
Touch wood everything is going nicely.
OK to the question at hand.
Defrag. Anyone have thoughts either way on this?
See I have heard some (even wouldbe computer experts) say it is NOT required anymore. Me, well I've always regularly (weekly/fortnightly) defragged my system.
My question is, is it OK to defrag RAID 5 drives? It is just a software thing isn't it?
Edit had Thermaltake 750 Watt in spec when actually went for the Antec
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:34 pm
by Foo
It's just a software thing yes and running it won't hurt the RAID.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:31 am
by creep
NTFS (The filesystem used by Windows NT systems such as XP and Vista) fragments less than the old FAT filesystems. Because of this, it will very rarely get fragmented to the point that the system becomes unstable/sluggish. This is why you'll hear "experts" say it's no longer necessary.
However, all filesystems will fragment to some degree, and an occasional defrag can keep large apps (like games) running smoother. Weekly is way overkill. Once every 6 months is probably overkill, unless you install/uninstall software and create/add/delete large-ish files frequently.
It'll never be a bad idea to delete IE's temp files and defrag just before or just after (un)installing anything major.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:08 am
by Whiskey 7
Thanks creep & Foo 
Still installing stuff
Horrible thought ...
How can I tell if my DVD burner is a dual layer burner like I paid for?
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:34 am
by creep
Device Manager should give you brand and model info. From there, just look it up.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 7:52 am
by Whiskey 7
Thanks again there creep.
Device Manager gives me the brand (Pioneer and sata) but not the model info.
Anyone with an idea here, be appreciated...
I will unplug and take it out of the rig to check out the outside to see if there is some further info.
Guess I'll buy some dual layered DVDs and try burn some data
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 8:06 am
by creep
Did you try this?
In device manager, under DVD/CDROM drives, right-click the drive, go to the details tab. There should be an odd looking string there that has the model number in it.
My Pioneer has it... but it's older so maybe they stopped putting it in at some point.
Re: RAID Configuration question
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2008 7:30 am
by Whiskey 7
creep wrote:..... maybe they stopped putting it in at some point.
Thanks creep, sadly there is nothing like that there.
No problem. I will grab some media on the weekend and give it a burn 