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Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 7:49 am
by Captain
Ok, I'm absolutely pissed off so I'll try to make as much sense as possible. First of all, this evening the computer froze up just within seconds of booting up the desktop. The first thing I did was open up Word and everything completely froze up for about 2 minutes. Yep, a pure desktop freeze. Hadn't had one of those since...ever, dating back to when I built this gaming system last November.

Secondly, for the past couple of days I've been hearing an obnoxiously loud ticking noise from my HDDs. They used to be dead silent but now I'm getting sick of the ticking every time the HDD is loading something. Speedfan's SMART analysis shows nothing wrong, other than a "watch" for the 'power on hours' section of both drives. I ran chkdisk /f on both drives and the ticking only happened while the D drive was being scanned. Both were free of any errors or bad sectors. I loaded up Diskeeper and lo and behold, the HDD in charge of the D drive was heavily fragmented. Funny, that never happened before as I always have DK's auto defrag running. That seems to have done away with the noise.

Then I came across a bigger problem. The Start menu was suffering from some freezing, but the Add/Remove Programs dialog was completely unusable. If I tried to uninstall or change something within the list, the dialog box would remain open but completely frozen. The only way to get through it was with a restart. Menus and everything else still worked, just the filthy bastard of a dialog box frozen in the middle of the screen. I was able to make the problem reappear by trying to uninstall a program but canceling the confirmation. That seems to have gone away after the defrag, but I'm not too sure.

As I was running GRID and testing some Fraps recording, I minimized the game and opened a small 10 second AVI video clip in WMP. After I closed that and moved through a couple folders, all hell broke loose. The entire screen just froze up immediately. The only thing I could do was bring up the task manager. Everything else was frozen and unusable. Even time stood still. I had to do a hard restart to get that shit over with.

I finally had enough and went into System Restore. I noticed that I have a restore checkpoint for every day of this month. I selected June 1st and the restore only took about 2 seconds to complete. Curious. Once the desktop loaded up, I was greeted with a nice "Restore Incomplete" dialog. I tried a whole bunch of other restore points - the result was the same.
Event viewer doesn't say anything other than system restore didn't work because it didn't work.
A restoration to "System Checkpoint" restore point failed. No changes have been made to the system.
*sigh* I'm completely stumped. If you can lend a hand, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:37 am
by creep
Having system restore on was probably the source of your issue =)

Enjoy your reformat.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:50 am
by Foo
The clicking is pretty classic 'drive failure imminent' kind of stuff.

If you can ghost that drive across to something else straight away, do so. Otherwise, back up your shit off that drive and seek a replacement.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:58 am
by creep
The type of clicking that singals HDD death only happens at power on. If it subsides and the drive comes up, you're good till next spinup, if the drive fails, it's either dead or needs a power cycle for another chance to live.

I bypassed this since he said "for the past couple days". I assumed that meant his drive has actually been working constantly, and he could hear it. Which is common when windows fails and freaks the fuck out.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:07 pm
by obsidian
I'm with Foo on this one. A clicking sound where there used to be none, typically signifies the hard drive is close to complete failure. Regardless, it's time to start backing up your stuff.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:24 pm
by Captain
It only happened when the busy light was on. The loud ticking is gone, now it's back to the generic 'busy noise' that HDDs have.
In other words, when the PC is idle, everything is dead silent.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 4:30 pm
by Captain
Sharing my Speedfan results:

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Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:03 pm
by Captain
I'm running sfc /scannow at the moment. I also reset System Restore as none of the restore points were working anyways.

I've borrowed my brother's external HDD and am moving lots of important stuff for safekeeping. Problem is, there won't be enough disk space for everything. Is there some sort of program that can create a smaller image file of some of the folders on my D drive and then place it on the external for safekeeping?

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 6:58 pm
by Captain
Quadruple post

I just ordered the following:

-Western Digital SE16 500GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB Cache (same as one of my current drives)
-nGear Internal SATA to External eSATA Bracket
-I-ROCKS IR-9410ES Black Aluminum 3.5IN SATA Hard Drive Enclosure eSATA USB2.0

Hopefully nothing happens before those arrive and I can set up an external backup system easily.

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 8:47 pm
by SoM
obsidian wrote:I'm with Foo on this one. A clicking sound where there used to be none, typically signifies the hard drive is close to complete failure. Regardless, it's time to start backing up your stuff.
agreed

i've had it happen twice :(

Re: Big fucking problems

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:34 pm
by Doombrain
creep wrote:Having system restore on was probably the source of your issue =)

Enjoy your reformat.
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