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Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:16 am
by feedback
Another reason the 10-point-must system is retarded

Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:37 am
by GONNAFISTYA
How about a link to whatever it is you're bitching about?
Alot of us don't follow sweaty gay man shit so some context would help a bunch.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:06 am
by Cooldown
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:12 am
by andyman
AAAND HERRRE WE GO.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:33 am
by +JuggerNaut+
rogan :\
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:12 pm
by seremtan
ffs :\
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:29 pm
by Nightshade
How was that fight bullshit feedback? Forrest controlled the cage for almost the entire fight, did more damage, brutalized Rampage's left leg, almost caught him in a triangle, and attacked more consistently. Plus, Rampage had NOTHING for Forrest on the ground, not when he was in Forrest's guard, and certainly not when Forrest got mount and dominated him in the second round. Sure, Rampage caught him with about 5 or 6 good shots, but that's it.
Don't get me wrong, I actually like Rampage a lot now, after seeing him on TUF, but methinks your bias towards him is coloring your judgement more than just a bit.
I like them both, but Griffin clearly won that fight.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:11 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
I have to agree. It was a close fight but the 2 guys I watched it with and I all agreed that Forrest won.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:35 pm
by tnf
When is that fight on regular cable where Silva will be fighting going to be? I know its sometime in July.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:04 pm
by Nightshade
July 19th.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:01 pm
by feedback
Nightshade wrote:How was that fight bullshit feedback? Forrest controlled the cage for almost the entire fight, did more damage, brutalized Rampage's left leg, almost caught him in a triangle, and attacked more consistently. Plus, Rampage had NOTHING for Forrest on the ground, not when he was in Forrest's guard, and certainly not when Forrest got mount and dominated him in the second round. Sure, Rampage caught him with about 5 or 6 good shots, but that's it.
Don't get me wrong, I actually like Rampage a lot now, after seeing him on TUF, but methinks your bias towards him is coloring your judgement more than just a bit.
I like them both, but Griffin clearly won that fight.
What gets me is mostly that two judges called it 48-46, and one judge had it 49-46. Forrest had Round 2 10-8, sure, but Round 1 was Rampage, 3 could be for Forrest, and 4 and 5 I'd give to Rampage. It was a close fight for sure,
FightMetric scored as a win for Jackson/ tie in the 10 point must system, it was a total shoe in for split decision
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:06 pm
by R00k
I couldn't agree more with the other guys - that fight belonged to Griffin. He controlled much more of the match, he had more offensive time than Jackson did, and with the triangle and his nearly total domination on the ground, Jackson's great punches just weren't enough to win the fight.
That's all Jackson had - some great punches. He didn't seem like he had much of a strategy aside from that, but Griffin was constantly taking advantage of his weaknesses.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 7:13 pm
by R00k
I only know the basics of the scoring system, but I've never really thought it made sense. If one guy violently dominates a single round, and the rest of the rounds are close, it's hard for the score to reflect that very much. It's a 2 point difference at most. The score won't reflect varying degrees of domination, which I think should be a pretty important part of the consideration. That just doesn't seem right.
So I probably agree with you that the scoring system has problems - even though I don't really understand how you're saying it hurt Jackson so badly in this one. In my opinion, Griffin's ownership of round 2 was much more total than any round Jackson had.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:39 pm
by Tormentius
R00k wrote:
That's all Jackson had - some great punches. He didn't seem like he had much of a strategy aside from that, but Griffin was constantly taking advantage of his weaknesses.
Jackson's legs were pretty shaky through the whole fight. That probably affected his punching power and ability to take Griffin down in a big way. I'm looking forward to their next fight.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:43 pm
by feedback
I have a feeling his ankle was messed up pre-fight or something, he didn't move laterally much and hardly moved compared to his fight with Henderson. We'll see.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 7:04 pm
by vileliquid1026
I won money off of that VICTORY.
Don't be pissed off, faggy-pants boy.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 2:10 am
by LawL
It was closer than the judges scores implied, but Forrest definitely won. Even Rampage has no problem admitting it. I won just over $1000 on this fight. OWNED.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 6:50 pm
by Transient
10-point-must has no place in MMA.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:26 pm
by LawL
Shut up Transient.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:28 pm
by feedback
Regardless of Transient's virgiosity, he's right to agree with me.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:37 pm
by LawL
Yes I know, but I've seen his pic and there's no way in hell I can take a person's opinion on MMA seriously when they look like that.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 7:45 pm
by Transient
You guys are so mean.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 8:50 pm
by LawL
I'm just kidding, carry on.
Re: Jackson vs. Griffin: Bullshit, or bullshit?
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:36 am
by Fury
LawL wrote:Yes I know, but I've seen his pic and there's no way in hell I can take a person's opinion on MMA seriously when they look like that.
basically what R00k said.
I'd have scored it closer especially rounds 4/5 but Forrest had it.