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				Trickjumping
				Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:06 pm
				by Rawing
				I guess most of you will know what trickjumping is. What I'd like to know is: WHY does it work? Is is a bug in the code or something different?
			 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:52 pm
				by ^misantropia^
				Depends on the trickjump skill you mean.
Take for instance strafejumping. In Q1, it was an oversight of the developers on how vector math works, so I suppose it qualifies as a bug (esp. when you take into consideration that it's frame rate dependent). As to how it works, it's basic Pythagoras: your speed is 320 units p/s. When you move in a straight line, it's exactly that. But with strafejumping, you move along the longest edge of a triangle so your speed is something like sqrt(320^2 + 320^2) =~ 453 units p/s. You sweep the mouse so you stay at that edge with each server frame. If you didn't, you'd be moving in a straight line again.
Hope this makes sense. Don't hesitate to say so if it doesn't.
			 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:56 pm
				by ^misantropia^
				Oh, and overbounces are definitely a bug. If you drop straight down from certain heights, you'll be just a tiny bit below the floor when the server frame runs. As a stop-gap measure, the game reverses your z axis velocity.
			 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:53 am
				by [xeno]Julios
				heh thanks i never understood strafe jumping until you put it that way. Same with overbounce bug.
			 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:16 pm
				by spookmineer
				[xeno]Julios wrote:heh thanks i never understood strafe jumping until you put it that way. Same with overbounce bug.
For the 
purists on strafing.
 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:21 pm
				by Rawing
				Strafing isn't like that any more is it? I've tried it once: running both forward and sidewards should make you faster, but I couldn't notice any speed improvement.
Bunny hopping: The game just doesn't apply any friction although the player hits the ground, right? That's what I've read some time ago.
			 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:16 pm
				by bork[e]
				spookmineer wrote:[xeno]Julios wrote:heh thanks i never understood strafe jumping until you put it that way. Same with overbounce bug.
For the 
purists on strafing.
 
Never seen this article before, nice one. 

 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:16 pm
				by nay0k
				Rawing wrote:Strafing isn't like that any more is it? I've tried it once: running both forward and sidewards should make you faster, but I couldn't notice any speed improvement.
Play a little bit of DeFrag and do that while paying attention to the UPS counter...you'll notice the difference if you turn the mouse.
 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:57 am
				by Unisaw
				spookmineer wrote:[xeno]Julios wrote:heh thanks i never understood strafe jumping until you put it that way. Same with overbounce bug.
For the 
purists on strafing.
 
^^^^ thanks.  My head hurts.  I would really like to spend the time to read that thoroughly and I will.
 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:50 am
				by DRuM
				How do I do a backflip?
			 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:55 am
				by spookmineer
				DRuM wrote:How do I do a backflip?
F, F, B, B, L, R, jump.
 
			
					
				Re: Trickjumping
				Posted: Sun Jan 18, 2009 2:11 pm
				by DRuM
				spookmineer wrote:DRuM wrote:How do I do a backflip?
F, F, B, B, L, R, jump.
 
Thank you. Would it help if I wore loose pants?