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I'm looking for some good VE software. All i know of is Adobe Premiere pro 1.5, but that only works with XP and not 2k and Canopus Edit. You guys know of any good ve software to recommend?

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Virtual Dub is good and free.
if you want something more hardcore, get a mac and final-cut.
or i hear pinnacle studio is comparable to premiere.

wohoo a reply.
i don't know but isn't virtual dub just used for converting media, can you also capture the footage from your cam and create titles, use filters and such?
hmm ill have to look into pinnacle studio.
i myself found Ulead Mediastudio 7 which seems to be real good, but the friggin trial wont install. why do all these shit installers suck so much :icon33:

hahaha... if all it did was convert formats it would be called a converter, not a general purpose video editor.
yeah, there are alot of things you can do with it... but yes, a video "project studio" application, it is not.

if you're doing anything *Serious* and you want something for the pc thats actually as good as Final-cut for the mac.
check out : http://www.sonic.com/
they make software that actually gets used to cut TV shows and shit.
some of their stuff makes premier look "quaint"

oh, and pinnicle studio is better than ulead by a large margin.

if youre useing dv try

http://www.avid.com/freedv/index.asp

i hear many good things about vegas video on pc as well

fuck ass, again WINXP ONLY. i just hate that bs, winxp is crap, they should acknowledge that

thnx for the link tho billy :icon14: was looking forward to editing

Lol, Xp is probably the best windows OS to date, aside from server 2003, which is shit IMO, because server != Windows in any sane person.

LeonardoP wrote:fuck ass, again WINXP ONLY. i just hate that bs, winxp is crap, they should acknowledge that

thnx for the link tho billy :icon14: was looking forward to editing

You're living in the past.. Upgrade to XP..

LeonardoP wrote:fuck ass, again WINXP ONLY. i just hate that bs, winxp is crap, they should acknowledge that

While you might not prefer it XP is by far the most secure, configurable, and user friendly OS that Microsoft has ever put out. 2k is quickly running out of supported time as well so it might be a good plan to get used to the idea of keeping up with tech

4g3nt_Smith wrote:aside from server 2003, which is shit IMO, because server != Windows in any sane person.

Care to clarify?

LeonardoP wrote:winxp is crap, they should acknowledge that

explain.

*edit* boy, there's some clarification that needs to happen in this thread.

I got lost and gave up trying to understand half of it.

scourge34 wrote:I got lost and gave up trying to understand half of it.

i was able to decipher approximately 68.12% of it, then my cranial turret went kaput.

lol wtf. what dont you guys get?
btw i totally hate xp, all the unnecesary feautures and the "user friendlyness" make me vomit.

Tormentius wrote:

LeonardoP wrote:fuck ass, again WINXP ONLY. i just hate that bs, winxp is crap, they should acknowledge that

While you might not prefer it XP is by far the most secure, configurable, and user friendly OS that Microsoft has ever put out. 2k is quickly running out of supported time as well so it might be a good plan to get used to the idea of keeping up with tech

no way, ill never install xp on one of my pcs, win2k5?! it is for me.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

LeonardoP wrote:winxp is crap, they should acknowledge that

explain.

*edit* boy, there's some clarification that needs to happen in this thread.

hmm i don't like xp cuz i don't like the user friendly crap, i don't like all the pre-installed programs you get. uhmm, i dont like the way it works (folders/searches/almost everything). so thats about it, if you need more explaining ill be happy to give it to you :P

LeonardoP wrote:hmm i don't like xp cuz i don't like the user friendly crap, i don't like all the pre-installed programs you get. uhmm, i dont like the way it works (folders/searches/almost everything). so thats about it, if you need more explaining ill be happy to give it to you :P

So just use the classic GUI, set searches and folder views to classic, and uninstall or disable said apps. I can do that in all of 5 minutes and have the same look as 9x/2k with all the security and functionality of a fully supported OS. Hell, the regkey writes can even be scripted into the install process so it only needs to be written once as a script and added to your answer file for subsequent installs. TweakUI makes changing those settings a little less daunting for most people though.

Tormentius wrote:

LeonardoP wrote:hmm i don't like xp cuz i don't like the user friendly crap, i don't like all the pre-installed programs you get. uhmm, i dont like the way it works (folders/searches/almost everything). so thats about it, if you need more explaining ill be happy to give it to you :P

So just use the classic GUI, set searches and folder views to classic, and uninstall or disable said apps. I can do that in all of 5 minutes and have the same look as 9x/2k with all the security and functionality of a fully supported OS. Hell, the regkey writes can even be scripted into the install process so it only needs to be written once as a script and added to your answer file for subsequent installs. TweakUI makes changing those settings a little less daunting for most people though.

why would i want to do that if win2k already has it and has better stability? plus even though you can turn all those features off, i still detest the fact that they're there in the first place and theres just too much i don't like in winxp. it's just the way xp works in general that i dislike.

LeonardoP wrote:

Tormentius wrote:

LeonardoP wrote:hmm i don't like xp cuz i don't like the user friendly crap, i don't like all the pre-installed programs you get. uhmm, i dont like the way it works (folders/searches/almost everything). so thats about it, if you need more explaining ill be happy to give it to you :P

So just use the classic GUI, set searches and folder views to classic, and uninstall or disable said apps. I can do that in all of 5 minutes and have the same look as 9x/2k with all the security and functionality of a fully supported OS. Hell, the regkey writes can even be scripted into the install process so it only needs to be written once as a script and added to your answer file for subsequent installs. TweakUI makes changing those settings a little less daunting for most people though.

why would i want to do that if win2k already has it and has better stability? plus even though you can turn all those features off, i still detest the fact that they're there in the first place and theres just too much i don't like in winxp. it's just the way xp works in general that i dislike.

I guess you aren't going to be a lot of video editing then...

LeonardoP wrote: why would i want to do that if win2k already has it and has better stability?

Heres a few reasons:

1) 2K is not getting more service packs or even many more updates. Its support lifecycle is almost over.

2) 2K is not even close to as stable as XP (I manage these machines for a living and have used both extensively). XP owns it for security and stability handsdown.

3) People that don't like the interface seem to be incapable of reading through the underlying technology that makes XP a better OS. There are many reasons it is superior to 2K, just browsing through some white papers makes that abundantly clear (take a look at the fact No Execute in SP2 has eliminated the most common class of Windows attacks for a start).

The only negative points about XP that are really valid are the product activation and the fact it uses a little more memory. Considering the low price of memory though thats hardly an issue anymore and product activation, although frustrating, is understandable.

If you were trying to argue that *nix or Apple were your thing I could at least respect it as both are current and competing products. What you seem to be arguing though is that an out of date, revision 1 OS with less security and fewer features is somehow better than its much more streamlined predecessor. Read up a lot more on which you speak of then come back to discuss it with something more than "I don't like the fully customizable interface".

Tormentius wrote:

LeonardoP wrote: why would i want to do that if win2k already has it and has better stability?

Heres a few reasons:

1) 2K is not getting more service packs or even many more updates. Its support lifecycle is almost over.

2) 2K is not even close to as stable as XP (I manage these machines for a living and have used both extensively). XP owns it for security and stability handsdown.

3) People that don't like the interface seem to be incapable of reading through the underlying technology that makes XP a better OS. There are many reasons it is superior to 2K, just browsing through some white papers makes that abundantly clear.

The only negative points about XP that are really valid are the product activation and the fact it uses a little more memory. Considering the low price of memory though thats hardly an issue anymore and product activation, although frustrating, is understandable.

If you were trying to argue that *nix or Apple were your thing I could at least respect it as both are current and competing products. What you seem to be arguing though is that an out of date, revision 1 OS with less security and fewer features is somehow better than its much more streamlined predecessor. Read up a lot more on which you speak of then come back to discuss it with something more than "I don't like the fully customizable interface".

Very well said

shit i hate long posts

Tormentius wrote:
Heres a few reasons:

1) 2K is not getting more service packs or even many more updates. Its support lifecycle is almost over.

2k works fine, drivers are still being produced plentiful, havent seen a single driver or anything else that has only XP support but the video editing software. there are lots of updates for 2k, almost everytime i go to windows update it has new updates.

2) 2K is not even close to as stable as XP (I manage these machines for a living and have used both extensively). XP owns it for security and stability handsdown.

from my own experience 2k is much more stable than XP... and for security whats xp got more to offer? built in firewall? geh i hate that
plus i don't really care for security, i can manage it on my own.

3) People that don't like the interface seem to be incapable of reading through the underlying technology that makes XP a better OS. There are many reasons it is superior to 2K, just browsing through some white papers makes that abundantly clear (take a look at the fact No Execute in SP2 has eliminated the most common class of Windows attacks for a start).

hmm, post some of the reasons then, i dont know what you're talking about. and as i said i don't really care for the security argument

The only negative points about XP that are really valid are the product activation and the fact it uses a little more memory. Considering the low price of memory though thats hardly an issue anymore and product activation, although frustrating, is understandable.

i do have a big problem with this, i hate that kind of stuff. ugh the memory hogging for all the useless shit, makes me go crazy up in here.

If you were trying to argue that *nix or Apple were your thing I could at least respect it as both are current and competing products. What you seem to be arguing though is that an out of date, revision 1 OS with less security and fewer features is somehow better than its much more streamlined predecessor. Read up a lot more on which you speak of then come back to discuss it with something more than "I don't like the fully customizable interface".

i hate it when people talk anout more "features" when they mean the annoying trinkets brought in xp. whats more streamlined about xp?

*nix and apple aint my thing cause i dont have an apple and i don't care enough to work my ass of to get *nix to work and to learn it.

anyway i don't really care tho, ill just keep hatin xp for the heck of it :icon14:

Bacon wrote: I guess you aren't going to be a lot of video editing then...

hm, why would you think that?

oh heh whoops no xp i see now

srz LeonardoP

you can try quicktime pro for cuts only type editing with pre captures avi's .

also premiere 6.0 is win 2k i believe.