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Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:52 pm
by Giraffe }{unter
The last few months we have been preparing to get our fireplace working, we had some major chimney issues that ran us over $3K to repair. I learned my lesson to always get a chimney inspector the $90.00 could have saved me some major cash on this project.

We went with a gas log set and with the help of my uncle we knocked out the install in a few hours. Arranging the logs to get the perfect fire took another 2 1/2. We still have a little fine tuning to do on the ember material, but it's done and fully functional.

Dry fitting the gas pipes.
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Reading the manual?
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Lit with no logs
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My wife adding the embers
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And finished...
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Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:52 pm
by Giraffe }{unter
This is a pick of our fireplace and we don't like the brick at all.

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I have a few boxes of indian autumn slate tile in 12" by 12". Indian slate varies in color, pattern and shape so you need to play with it to get a nice look.

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After laying out the tile the fireplace looked something like this which I don't like. I fell the 12 x 12 is too big for the fireplace and would look weird.

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I picked up a tile cutter and will be cutting each tile down to smaller tiles. I just need to decide if I want to go with a neat symentrical brick pattern lie this.

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Or my preferred random scattered pattern that looks a little more natural.

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Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:59 pm
by plained
i'd install tempergass doors first

*actually not even doors, just sealed temperd glass

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:06 pm
by werldhed
Thought about a wood mantel at all?
Might fit your layout better...

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:45 pm
by Giraffe }{unter
plained wrote:i'd install tempergass doors first

*actually not even doors, just sealed temperd glass
The doors are already installed see the first pic in my second post. Tinted tempered glass, with this fire the doors need to be open when there is a fire otherwise the fire cannot get oxygen.

werldhed wrote:Thought about a wood mantel at all?
Might fit your layout better...
I should have included that info. I already have a mantle design to match the existing woodwork in my house. It's similar to the one below except the mirror will be replaced by a TV. The exposed brick and hearth will be covered by the slate.

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Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:03 pm
by plained
ok i understand a vent would work tho.

i think ur plan for a smaller dimension tile mosaic will look good.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:20 pm
by werldhed
Giraffe }{unter wrote:
werldhed wrote:Thought about a wood mantel at all?
Might fit your layout better...
I should have included that info. I already have a mantle design to match the existing woodwork in my house. It's similar to the one below except the mirror will be replaced by a TV. The exposed brick and hearth will be covered by the slate.

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Ahh... I see what you're going for...

I retract my earlier statement. :)

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:59 pm
by lars63
Gas fire places are very nice looks like you did a good job :)

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:57 pm
by bitWISE
Giraffe }{unter wrote: I should have included that info. I already have a mantle design to match the existing woodwork in my house. It's similar to the one below except the mirror will be replaced by a TV. The exposed brick and hearth will be covered by the slate.

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Thats hot.

*Adds to list of things I'll never get around to doing*

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:51 pm
by YourGrandpa
Are you sure about that spot for the TV? It looks like it's a bit too high and out of place. I'd put a mirror or painting there and move the TV some place else. But otherwise the fire place and your future plans look great.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 9:54 pm
by Doombrain
some people don't plan their home life around the TV, gramps.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:14 pm
by YourGrandpa
Doombrain wrote:some people don't plan their home life around the TV, gramps.
Really, Capitan Obvious?

Typically, TV's are mounted level with your eyes from a sitting position. (I didn't make that up) Furthermore, it seems like the people watching the TV would have tilt their heads back and look up to see it. That's why I said it's mounted too high. It also looks out of place because TV's don't tyipcally sit on/above the fire place mantels.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:17 pm
by Doombrain
na, you're just a hic.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:36 pm
by LawL
Tears in The Void thanks Duumbrain.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:38 pm
by Doombrain
another GD topic trolled.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:04 pm
by LawL
You just can’t help yourself.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:27 pm
by YourGrandpa
Doombrain wrote:na, you're just a hic.
Yeah, I'm the classic example of a hick. :olo:

Please, give me one factual example of how I'm this "hick".

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:28 pm
by Doombrain
hummer

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:38 pm
by YourGrandpa
So your interpretation of a hick would be a person that drives a $40K SUV? Interesting...

I guess the term hick translates into something different across the pond.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:40 pm
by LawL
Duumbrain can't even spell hick, let alone define it.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 1:42 am
by onejmt
O-my-gosh! That conversion is so freaky inefficient that whenever it's on, it's minus whatever the efficiency was when it's not lit and just blowing natural gas outside.

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 3:33 am
by Giraffe }{unter
YourGrandpa wrote:
Doombrain wrote:some people don't plan their home life around the TV, gramps.
Really, Capitan Obvious?

Typically, TV's are mounted level with your eyes from a sitting position. (I didn't make that up) Furthermore, it seems like the people watching the TV would have tilt their heads back and look up to see it. That's why I said it's mounted too high. It also looks out of place because TV's don't tyipcally sit on/above the fire place mantels.

Most people are mounting TVs above the fireplace now, but you are correct proper mounting would be eye level. When watching TV I lounge back with my head on the couch for the perfect viewing angle :up: Also this tv is a secondary mainly for news and sesame street in the am. The proper viewing room will be in the basement where I will once again mount the TV above eye level because that is where I like it :p

Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:44 am
by Giraffe }{unter
Between last night and today I got quite a bit done with the help of my wife. We got the whole hearth edged, cut and set.

Friday I extended the hearth 9 inches on each side to make room for the pillars and one inch forward to cover up the missing floor area. Friday night we arranged the border tiles, and set them in place with thin-set mortar.

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Then filled in over the wood with mortar to level it out for tiling the next day.

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A good part of my morning was spent slicing 12 x 12 tiles into 2 3/4" pieces which will later be cut into a staggered brick layout to cover up the red brick.

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My wife set in the border tiles, which are a softer edged tumbled slate. This gives us a rounded edge around the hearth to make it easier when you stub your toe :)

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Cutting back the baseboard heater covers
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Everything set in place with thin-set

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Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 3:44 am
by Giraffe }{unter
Ahhh done...

I created a rough template to layout all the tiles since there were so many different colors.

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Then once I had a rough idea i made my cuts using an exact template

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And we set in all the tiles. The rest will be covered by wood YAY!

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Re: Fireplace work

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:04 pm
by Giraffe }{unter
I wasted 2 days sealing the slate with what I thought was a good quality sealer. I grouted the tiles and the sealer did not protect them. The entire fucking thing looks aged and hazy.

I went at it for 4 hours last night after grouting and had no luck removing it with plain water. It's time for some brushes and some acid.

Lesson learned when people 50% on the internet say a product is bad and the other 50% argue with them, just find a product with better odds.