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Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 3:36 am
by DarkSun
Hi,
I recently decided to dust off my copy of Q3:Arena and boot it up on my awesome pc and play it in its 640x480 glory :P.
I played on a few servers for a day and all the old memories returned of how fun this game is. I then went on to install the latest patch: 1.32 i believe, however i found the servers i enjoyed were missing, i learned obviously that the protocol code is different for each patch. So i uninstalled everything and reinstalled the standard game: 1.11. However when i now play the single player of the game, instead of automatically starting the next level when i click next (after completing a level), i get thrown back into the main screen. Any suggestions?
Also when i re-installed the game, all my data remained(even though i deleted the folders). What could be the problem for this?
Thank you for any help, im rather new here!
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 9:27 am
by ^misantropia^
Well... I suggest you upgrade to at least 1.16n, the last PR that is network compatible with 1.11, but I recommend 1.32c. If you really want to stick with older releases, check the console for error messages (pull it down with the tilde).
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 6:32 pm
by DarkSun
Cheers for the info, i think i will go for 1.16n. I ending up having to re-install windows the other day so i installed the base version of the game again.
Just one more question, i find that when i finish a game on multiplayer, or a level in single player, i get sent to the menu screen... any idea why this is?
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 7:50 pm
by ^misantropia^
The same advice applies, really. Getting thrown back to the menu can have one of several causes, so check the console for warning and error messages. '/condump condump.txt' will dump it to a file, which is always handy for a post-mortem.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 8:26 pm
by DarkSun
Just did that but i cant find the txt file
, which directory does it save to?
"/condump condump.txt" is what i typed.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:40 pm
by ^misantropia^
You should see it in the baseq3 directory (assuming it's writeable).
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 4:54 pm
by DarkSun
Ok, I ran Quake 3 arena as admin and performed the condump again, here is the output. I removed any irrelevant text before the first line (it was just people chatting saying 'gg' etc.
Can you find any reason in here for my getting sent to the menu screen?
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RE_Shutdown( 0 )
----- R_Init -----
GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER: GeForce 8800 GTX/PCI/SSE2
GL_VERSION: 3.2.0
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_imaging
GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers
GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader
GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coo
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 8192
GL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 4
PIXELFORMAT: color(32-bits) Z(24-bit) stencil(8-bits)
MODE: 3, 640 x 480 fullscreen hz:60
GAMMA: hardware w/ 0 overbright bits
CPU: Intel Pentium III
rendering primitives: single glDrawElements
texturemode: GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST
picmip: 1
texture bits: 0
multitexture: enabled
compiled vertex arrays: enabled
texenv add: enabled
compressed textures: enabled
Initializing Shaders
...loading 'scripts/base.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_button.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_floor.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_light.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_object.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_support.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_trim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_wall.shader'
...loading 'scripts/common.shader'
...loading 'scripts/ctf.shader'
...loading 'scripts/eerie.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gfx.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_block.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_floor.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_light.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_trim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_wall.shader'
...loading 'scripts/hell.shader'
...loading 'scripts/liquid.shader'
...loading 'scripts/menu.shader'
...loading 'scripts/models.shader'
...loading 'scripts/organics.shader'
...loading 'scripts/sfx.shader'
...loading 'scripts/shrine.shader'
...loading 'scripts/skin.shader'
...loading 'scripts/sky.shader'
...loading 'scripts/test.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_door.shader'
********************
ERROR: Couldn't load scripts/base_door.shader
********************
RE_Shutdown( 0 )
----- R_Init -----
GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA Corporation
GL_RENDERER: GeForce 8800 GTX/PCI/SSE2
GL_VERSION: 3.2.0
GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_fragment_program
GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_imaging
GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query
GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_shader_objects
GL_ARB_shading_language_100 GL_ARB_shadow GL_ARB_texture_border_clamp
GL_ARB_texture_compression GL_ARB_texture_cube_map GL_ARB_texture_env_add
GL_ARB_texture_env_combine GL_ARB_texture_env_crossbar
GL_ARB_texture_env_dot3 GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat
GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two GL_ARB_texture_rectangle
GL_ARB_transpose_matrix GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object GL_ARB_vertex_program
GL_ARB_vertex_shader GL_ARB_window_pos GL_ATI_draw_buffers
GL_ATI_texture_float GL_ATI_texture_mirror_once GL_S3_s3tc
GL_EXT_texture_env_add GL_EXT_abgr GL_EXT_bgra GL_EXT_blend_color
GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate GL_EXT_blend_func_separate GL_EXT_blend_minmax
GL_EXT_blend_subtract GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array GL_EXT_Cg_shader
GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test GL_EXT_draw_range_elements GL_EXT_fog_coo
GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE: 8192
GL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 4
PIXELFORMAT: color(32-bits) Z(24-bit) stencil(8-bits)
MODE: 3, 640 x 480 fullscreen hz:60
GAMMA: hardware w/ 0 overbright bits
CPU: Intel Pentium III
rendering primitives: single glDrawElements
texturemode: GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_NEAREST
picmip: 1
texture bits: 0
multitexture: enabled
compiled vertex arrays: enabled
texenv add: enabled
compressed textures: enabled
Initializing Shaders
...loading 'scripts/base.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_button.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_floor.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_light.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_object.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_support.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_trim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_wall.shader'
...loading 'scripts/common.shader'
...loading 'scripts/ctf.shader'
...loading 'scripts/eerie.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gfx.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_block.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_floor.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_light.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_trim.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_wall.shader'
...loading 'scripts/hell.shader'
...loading 'scripts/liquid.shader'
...loading 'scripts/menu.shader'
...loading 'scripts/models.shader'
...loading 'scripts/organics.shader'
...loading 'scripts/sfx.shader'
...loading 'scripts/shrine.shader'
...loading 'scripts/skin.shader'
...loading 'scripts/sky.shader'
...loading 'scripts/test.shader'
...loading 'scripts/base_door.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_button.shader'
...loading 'scripts/gothic_door.shader'
...loading 'scripts/liquids.shader'
...loading 'scripts/museum.shader'
...loading 'scripts/skies.shader'
...loading 'scripts/terrademoQ3.shader'
----- finished R_Init -----
Loading vm file vm/ui.qvm.
VM file ui compiled to 902626 bytes of code
30 arenas parsed
32 bots parsed
]/condump condump.txt
Dumped console text to condump.txt.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 6:19 pm
by ^misantropia^
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ERROR: Couldn't load scripts/base_door.shader
This. If you look at the lower right of the console, what version does it say you are running?
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:10 pm
by DarkSun
Q3 1.11 - I only have the cd installed, no patches or anything or mods installed.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:00 am
by Eraser
You're reporting problems with a version of Quake 3 that is known to have bugs (hence the various patches that have been released for the game). Right now the best advice you can follow is to update to 1.32. If that's too far up for you,
at least go to 1.16n as I believe no protocol changes have been made between 1.11 and 1.16.
Additionally, you could install the Q3 point release switcher:
http://www.quaketweaks.com/version.html
This allows you to smoothly switch between different versions of Quake 3.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 1:08 pm
by DarkSun
Well i never had this problem before so i would like to think there is another problem apart from "buggy build".
I actually just realised something. I have GTKRadiant 1.4 installed on my system. Could this be impacting that particular error im getting on Quake 3?
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ERROR: Couldn't load scripts/base_door.shader
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:50 pm
by ^misantropia^
Possibly. Try removing everything from your baseq3 except the pak*.pk3 files. But why the reluctance to upgrade?
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:54 pm
by DarkSun
But why the reluctance to upgrade?
Im a bit OCD when it comes to what gets installed on my machine. I like to keep it clean. I know it must sound weird.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 3:57 pm
by ^misantropia^
If you want to keep your machine clean, upgrade. 1.32c fixes a security issue where a malicious server can take over your machine.
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:07 pm
by MKJ
lol, owned
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:12 pm
by DarkSun
Hehe, doh. Would love to but my favourite server is on the same protocol as the one im on. Its a CTF and really fast and fun. Are there more servers like this on 1.32c? or are they all TDM(DM)?
BTW ^misantropia^ thank you very much for the advice to clean out the base3q folder, it worked a charm
Re: Returning to a 10 yr old game :)
Posted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:12 pm
by menkent
there are ctf servers on 1.32... likely a good deal more of them than on 1.11 (holy shit that's old).