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Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:59 pm
by DRuM
My blood pressure is apparently borderline hypertension. Doctor tested me 3 times this morning. First time was 166,
second time 163, third time 150 by which time I'd relaxed more. But they know people get anxious with those armbands on squeezing their arms to fuck. So above 140 is regarded as mildly high. Doctor wasn't worried about my 150, but what with me being almost as old as seremtan, recommended I get a blood test and cholestrol test which I've booked for next week. Also, my real BP is very possibly lower than that anyway. Who knows, maybe 140 to145? I'd like to think so anyway. I know of people that tested their BP at home and it was normal, then went to their GP/Nurse and it was reading out stage 1/2 hypertension.
I'd like to get it down to 140. If I cut out all or most added table salt to my food, and removed the skin from chicken thighs and legs, that should help reduce BP but if so, considerably? Or cholestrol? Or both?
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:02 pm
by Plan B
Dead man walking.
Seeking medical advice on a fucking gaming board, no less.
Bye bye, drum.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:06 pm
by DRuM
Plan B wrote:Dead man walking.
Seeking medical advice on a fucking gaming board, no less.
Bye bye, drum.
There's plenty of threads on here about fitness and health. I'm just adding to the pile.
PS fu..
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:08 pm
by Plan B
Seriously, love you drum.
Just cut the shit food (you know exactly what "shit food" is) and excecrise
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:13 pm
by DRuM
Plan B wrote:Seriously, love you drum.
Just cut the shit food (you know exactly what "shit food" is) and excecrise
I started an exercise regime couple of years back, jogging, running and sprinting every day. Like many, laziness got the better of me after a short period of time and I stopped.
Need to get back into it though.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:21 pm
by Plan B
I'm in the same place you are in.
I'm 38 now, and confronted with the fact you have to do maintenance on your body.
So be it. Do it. We Q3Wers are going to leave good-looking corpses, no?
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:24 pm
by Captain
I hate salt and chicken skin. I'm healthy
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 2:29 pm
by Plan B
Bit too brown to protect us from terrorism, aren't ya?
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:07 pm
by scared?
wtf is a 150 blood pressure? bordeline is 120-139 over 80-89...
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 5:37 pm
by DRuM
scared? wrote:wtf is a 150 blood pressure? bordeline is 120-139 over 80-89...
Wrong
http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/medicin ... essure.htm
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 6:57 pm
by scared?
according to that chart I'm correct...thx...
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 9:36 pm
by seremtan
DRuM wrote:... added table salt...
what kind of moron adds table salt?..rofl...
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 11:46 pm
by xer0s
Drum, when your gut sticks out farther than your nose, you know you've got a problem...
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:47 am
by mrd
seremtan wrote:DRuM wrote:... added table salt...
what kind of moron adds table salt?..rofl...
Sorry to say drum, but I agree with this. Are you a smoker? Most food (unless you're eating a raw food diet) has shit loads of salt in it already. Just throw your salt shaker in the fuckin' can. Also, drink a tall glass of water with every meal to help with digestion and to flush out impurities in your food. Strange (or boring) as it may sound, try to compare the way modern people eat compared to the way we "should" eat. 50,000 years ago, fruit was a god-send. Added sugar was nowhere. Likely the same with salt. Same goes for processed foods. If you cut out salt and sugar, you will find that natural, raw foods will begin to taste sweet or salty on their own. Call me a weirdo, but when I eat an apple, I get a pretty big sugar rush for about half an hour.
Also, this doesn't really have much to do with high blood pressure but... make sure you chew your god damn food. Digestion occurs due to the HCL in your stomach breaking food down into more manageable chunks for your intestines. Chemistry teaches us that increased surface area increases the effective rate of a chemical reaction (HCL vs. fats, proteins, etc.), and the way to increase the surface area of your food is to pulverize it into mush with your teeth. Too many people inhale their fuckin' food then wonder why they feel like a bag of shit. Eat slow, chew that shit like a champ, and wash it down with a fuck ton of water. And fuck the salt. Pepper is cool though
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:58 am
by Tsakali
salt preference is... a preference. I also like the idea of not tampering with prepared food, but sometimes the chef is a moron.
and yeah, my brother shallows his food like an moron and he always gets stomach aches. Now, I just laugh at him, since simply telling him not to eat like a stray dog isn't doing the trick.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:04 am
by mrd
Tsakali wrote:salt preference is... a preference. I also like the idea of not tampering with prepared food, but sometimes the chef is a moron.
Sure, but too many people shake salt on their food until it looks like it's frosted.
I use salt when I'm cooking, that's it.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 1:37 am
by Survivor
Recently started cooking with steam. Mucho flavour, absolutely no salt necessary. Even steamed potatoes taste well. If you get one of those specially designed pans with a few steamtrays you can even do it all on one pan. Less shit to clean up.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:45 am
by obsidian
- Learn to cook your own food from scratch (no more processed/fast foods).
- Uses more spices and herbs to flavour your food.
- You get used to less salt and you are better able to distinguish other flavours.
- Recommended daily intake of salt/sodium is 1 teaspoon per day.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 9:56 am
by Ryoki
Survivor wrote:Recently started cooking with steam. Mucho flavour, absolutely no salt necessary. Even steamed potatoes taste well. If you get one of those specially designed pans with a few steamtrays you can even do it all on one pan. Less shit to clean up.
I've been meaning to buy a set of those bamboo basket things for ages... you can cook delicious thingies with steam & it's indeed very healthy. Shall look for em during the weekend
And what mrd said; there's already way too much salt in literally everything - it should really be avoided unless you're cooking natural, unprocessed food from scratch. Same thing with sugar.
I sometimes find it damn hard to summon the will to go out of my way to buy fresh food every day and still have the energy to spend half an hour putting a decent meal together, if there wasn't a Turkish supermarket with fresh everything near my work i don't know if i'd keep it up. But man it does pay off, everything tastes loads better and it's actually a lot cheaper than the shit at a regular supermarket. I do cheat now and then and eat something godawful, but these days i feel like a guilty, unhappy swine afterwards
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:36 pm
by Survivor
Ryoki wrote:Survivor wrote:Recently started cooking with steam. Mucho flavour, absolutely no salt necessary. Even steamed potatoes taste well. If you get one of those specially designed pans with a few steamtrays you can even do it all on one pan. Less shit to clean up.
I've been meaning to buy a set of those bamboo basket things for ages... you can cook delicious thingies with steam & it's indeed very healthy. Shall look for em during the weekend
And what mrd said; there's already way too much salt in literally everything - it should really be avoided unless you're cooking natural, unprocessed food from scratch. Same thing with sugar.
I sometimes find it damn hard to summon the will to go out of my way to buy fresh food every day and still have the energy to spend half an hour putting a decent meal together, if there wasn't a Turkish supermarket with fresh everything near my work i don't know if i'd keep it up. But man it does pay off, everything tastes loads better and it's actually a lot cheaper than the shit at a regular supermarket. I do cheat now and then and eat something godawful, but these days i feel like a guilty, unhappy swine afterwards
If you're not going the bamboo route ikea has easy stuff:
As for cooking; I find ingredient based cooking an ideal waste of time. It usually takes me an hour or perhaps 2 to fully prepare a meal, but in the end this also means you're definitely hungry, and it'll taste even more awesome. I usually have lots of basics in store like the herbs and spices, but also stuff which is used up quickly anyway like cucumbers, tomatoes and paprikas. A walk through the store then only necesitates buying real fresh stuff like lettuce, meat or specific fruit.
It also allows some variety with spur of the moment purchases. I know some friends who have made a routine of cooking which is very predictable that you'll actually know exactly what's in their shopping basket if you encounter them at the store.
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:54 pm
by Eraser
Memphis wrote:mrd wrote:
Sure, but too many people shake salt on their food until it looks like it's frosted.
guilty
oh noes, i might die before bladder control loss
yes, but not before you start suffering from high blood pressure, failing kidneys, dehydration, digestive problems and osteoporosis
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:03 pm
by seremtan
he's welsh, he can't help it
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:01 pm
by DRuM
mrd wrote:
I use salt when I'm cooking, that's it.
That's pretty much all I do tbh. I pour some salt into water when I'm boiling pasta or potatoes or any veg. The only other thing I do is a pinch of salt in the palm of my hand to sprinkle on baked potatoes.
Still, I'm going to cut out the salt in the water. All other salt is already in a lot of food I buy, so yeah, I need to be more selective on what I'm buying and cooking. I eat some healthy'ish meals, like
for example, grilled chicken with boiled potatoes and boiled fresh veg (swede, cabbage, cauliflower, etc), but I also tend to eat a fair bit of oven chips and breadcrumb coated things like chicken kievs or escalopes, or worse still, sausages. I guess it's a case of everything in moderation, but I do need to reduce a lot of the crap. Cakes, biscuits, chocolate for starters, had way too much of that shit the last few months. I am a sucker for milky bars and maltesers though
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:09 pm
by scared?
pouring salt in to your pasta water is about as moronic as u could get...die dumbo...DIE!...
Re: Cutting out salt
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 7:36 pm
by SoM
DRuM wrote:mrd wrote:
I use salt when I'm cooking, that's it.
That's pretty much all I do tbh. I pour some salt into water when I'm boiling pasta or potatoes or any veg. The only other thing I do is a pinch of salt in the palm of my hand to sprinkle on baked potatoes.
Still, I'm going to cut out the salt in the water. All other salt is already in a lot of food I buy, so yeah, I need to be more selective on what I'm buying and cooking. I eat some healthy'ish meals, like
for example, grilled chicken with boiled potatoes and boiled fresh veg (swede, cabbage, cauliflower, etc), but I also tend to eat a fair bit of oven chips and breadcrumb coated things like chicken kievs or escalopes, or worse still, sausages. I guess it's a case of everything in moderation, but I do need to reduce a lot of the crap. Cakes, biscuits, chocolate for starters, had way too much of that shit the last few months. I am a sucker for milky bars and maltesers though
just cut out added salt period.
i do use salt, but not much, only for pasta/potatoes, (which i don't eat often) i don't eat chips.
i also stopped using sugar about 10 years ago, don't eat sweets (maybe 1 a month or not at all)
your body will just get used to it
also excersize, drink water alot.