Quake3World

Well the t.v. networks started a year ago. It's 7 months away and we only know one major candidate for sure but there's still a lot to talk about. So...

Who will be Republican nominee and who will be elected president?

lol staged elections are cute...

what country is this happening in again?

I don't think enough people can decide on a single alternative to Obama for him to lose. I'll still be voting him.

voting like u think it matters...lol dumb ppl!...

Obama-Romney, 1-0. So predictable.
I bet a lot of republicans are even going to vote Obama, just because Romney is so void of...anything.

You don't vote, Geoff?

I stopped after bush/Kerry... it's over until revolution...

Your capitalisation of Kerry, and not bush, suggests you voted Kerry.
But seriously, only after that election you came to the conclusion your vote doesn't matter?
What a moron I got wise to that shit when I was like 6.

i came to that conclusion way before...i just wanted a different figure head in there besides bush...
just for the entertainment value, i suppose it would be more fun with a total crazy person...

so in the future if a total nutter has a chance i will prolly vote for him...

My stance is if you don't vote, you can't complain. If the system is rigged, and you don't vote, you still have no stake in the matter anyways.

bitWISE wrote:If the system is rigged, and you don't vote, you still have no stake in the matter anyways.

huh? If the system is rigged, recourse has to found be outside the system of elections, no?

RIOT!

bitWISE wrote:My stance is if you don't vote, you can't complain.

ur a colossal moron...the opposite is true....if u voted for the moronsu need stfu...

It's all retarded muppetry, but Romney gets the nomination, Obama wins. Nothing changes, we're all still fucked.

What scares me the most is how many people support Santorum and Gingrich. I thought Palin supporters were bad, but fuck me in the goat ass, this crowd is a bunch of rampaging batshit loonballs.

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:

bitWISE wrote:If the system is rigged, and you don't vote, you still have no stake in the matter anyways.

huh? If the system is rigged, recourse has to found be outside the system of elections, no?

Lets suppose that if everyone in the US voted, Ron Paul would win. Suppose further that the majority of Ron Paul supporters share the "system is rigged" attitude and don't bother voting. As a result, Obama wins the popular vote and this result very closely matches the result of the electoral college. Where is your official proof that the country actually wanted Ron Paul to be their leader? I'm not taking about <1% discrepancies like we've had four times in the past. I'm talking about a serious disconnect between the will of the people and the outcome. Surely such a gross discrepancy would rally support across the country. At the very least it would embolden those who are trying to bring about change and entice more to join them.

Instead you have nothing but speculation and vast generalizations about what the rest of the country thinks. Instead you have people who say "meh, fuck it" and change the channel. You can't prove a system is broken through inaction and without proof all you have is armchair conspiracy theory. If you want to start a revolution, go fucking do it already. If you want to work within the system, go get political. But don't just sit there and pout and complain that the rest of us aren't doing enough to fix your problems.

I don't know. My point is registering your opinion is at least doing something. And something is still better than nothing at all.

*tearful standing ovation*

although your message is better aimed at worthless fucks like geoff, rather than puff - it looks like he was just asking academically. maybe i'm reading it wrong.

Romney will win. He'll restart the Cold War, claim Hawaii needs to be invaded with the full brunt of "muricuh's military might" and non-stop replays of night-vision combat will play on CNN 24/7...nothing will change.

bitWISE wrote:...But don't just sit there and pout and complain that the rest of us aren't doing enough to fix your problems.

he's canadian. they're not his problems

and besides, PuFF thinks setting up tents in a park with no defined agenda is the way forward for political change

(in b4 maple-scented tears)

bitWISE wrote: Lets suppose that if everyone in the US voted, Ron Paul would win. Suppose further that the majority of Ron Paul supporters share the "system is rigged" attitude and don't bother voting. As a result, Obama wins the popular vote and this result very closely matches the result of the electoral college. Where is your official proof that the country actually wanted Ron Paul to be their leader? I'm not taking about <1% discrepancies like we've had four times in the past. I'm talking about a serious disconnect between the will of the people and the outcome. Surely such a gross discrepancy would rally support across the country. At the very least it would embolden those who are trying to bring about change and entice more to join them.

Instead you have nothing but speculation and vast generalizations about what the rest of the country thinks. Instead you have people who say "meh, fuck it" and change the channel. You can't prove a system is broken through inaction and without proof all you have is armchair conspiracy theory. If you want to start a revolution, go fucking do it already. If you want to work within the system, go get political. But don't just sit there and pout and complain that the rest of us aren't doing enough to fix your problems.

I don't know. My point is registering your opinion is at least doing something. And something is still better than nothing at all.

You're describing a fallacy (a fallacy which I agree exists) not a rigged voting system.

It wasn't directed at any specific person. Sorry Puff.

It's too bad OWS didn't target something more tangible like campaign funding or lobbyists.

bitWISE wrote:It wasn't directed at any specific person. Sorry Puff.

It's too bad OWS didn't target something more tangible like campaign funding or lobbyists.

No it's fine, I was just trying to understand what you were getting at.

Ron Paul is fake and full of shit just like the rest of them.
Obama vs. *, Obama wins 50/47 but with a decent lead in electoral votes. the real fight is going to be for congressional seats where republican redistricting should have them picking up seats in the house since the romney/santorum circus has distracted from their obstructionist bullshittery.

Ron Paul. If he's not listed in the Nevada ballot, then voting for Not-Obama.

who ever wins, we're still fucked, another war coming.