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autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:46 pm
by scared?
probably...and look at the typical moronics from the right...
Some conservatives have expressed concern that Governments will place controls on robot cars that diminish freedom. [11]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomo ... te_note-10
moron alert?...
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:14 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
scared? wrote:probably...and look at the typical moronics from the right...
Some conservatives have expressed concern that Governments will place controls on robot cars that diminish freedom. [11]
click me for hilarious stupidity from a grown man
Can we just make it illegal to be on the right wing of the political spectrum? It'll simply make all our debates about solving problems that much more fruitful and that much less retarded.
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:42 pm
by scared?
lol these cars would be revolutionary to our way of life and Goldberg is worried if he can ever drive over the speed limit again? lol dumb ass...
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:26 pm
by Κracus
GONNAFISTYA wrote:
click me for hilarious stupidity from a grown man
Can we just make it illegal to be on the right wing of the political spectrum? It'll simply make all our debates about solving problems that much more fruitful and that much less retarded.
I think he's got a point, I go offroad all the time for fun, can't really do that in a robot car with no steering wheel...
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:41 pm
by scared?
Κracus wrote:GONNAFISTYA wrote:
click me for hilarious stupidity from a grown man
Can we just make it illegal to be on the right wing of the political spectrum? It'll simply make all our debates about solving problems that much more fruitful and that much less retarded.
I think he's got a point, I go offroad all the time for fun, can't really do that in a robot car with no steering wheel...
then buy a car with a steering wheel dipshit...
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:48 pm
by seremtan
In 2010, there were 32,885 US traffic fatalities...
lol wut
that's over 2 1/2 times the traffic fatality rate of the UK. i guess jonah goldberg is defending the right of every american to exit his own car through the front windshield at high speed
he does however raise an interesting point: how easy would it be to hack into the control system of a robot car?
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:53 pm
by scared?
he also wrote a book about how fascism is a liberal phenomena...
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:16 pm
by seremtan
well now u cum to mention it...

Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:37 pm
by mjrpes
I was just thinking about autonomous cars because of a tragic accident that happened last weekend around where I live:
Concord SUV kills father, daughter riding bikes
As much as I like the freedom of turning my steering wheel whenever I want, there's just too much stupidity on the road.
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:54 pm
by EtUL
I would think most people would welcome this. An informal survey shows that half of them are looking at something other than the road anyway.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:29 pm
by 4days
mjrpes wrote:I was just thinking about autonomous cars because of a tragic accident that happened last weekend around where I live:
Concord SUV kills father, daughter riding bikes
As much as I like the freedom of turning my steering wheel whenever I want, there's just too much stupidity on the road.
that's a lot of car for a child to be driving
Κracus wrote:I think he's got a point, I go offroad all the time for fun, can't really do that in a robot car with no steering wheel...
it's very unlikely that the 'robot' element would mean removal of the steering wheel, precisely because people do drive for pleasure. the author (whatever end of the political spectrum they're on) has either failed to understand the nature of commerce or failed to make it clear that they have their tongue in their cheek. again with the other ramblings - it's hard to tell if they're just an idiot or if they don't understand the need for 10,000 robotic cars travelling along the freeway at 250 mph to be uninterrupted by one coffee swigging fucktard pootling along at 70.
imtfo, the police state bit is a valid concern but part of a wider information privacy issue. we need laws, but we also expect a fair shake at being able to break them. with human policing, the state can't have an unmarked car parked outside every home or following you to work - with CCTV and communications/transport monitoring, it can. all those opportunities:
- (1) concerned neighbour
(2) local coppers
(3) local magistrate/court
(4) national anti-terror squad
(5) international anti-terror squad
(6) spurious rendition to america
(7) shadowy private enterprise
(8) dumping into the taxpayer funded system
(9) bubba
they all provide a point of human intervention where the situation is still nobody's damn business beyond the people involved. with machines, a lot of that can be bypassed. the opportunity to have broken the law but applied sufficient common sense for it to be of no consequence is gone. e.g. you can already pick up a speeding ticket that it'll take months to get off your record if someone steals your car.
so what happens if you get drunk, threaten your ex-girlfriend on facebook and then have your car take you over to her house? will a robot squad car be waiting outside just in case? it's far too easy to commit a crime as it is (e.g. meat popsicles on twitter/facebook getting time for making stupid posts), we need laws that make sense before we give law enforcement any new toys to play with.
sorry, yes, robot cars. excellent, i want one that will come to me when i've forgotten the damn thing even exists and walked home.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:43 pm
by scared?
it would be totally awesome if u could just send ur car to pick up ppl and drive them to your location on its own...
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:51 pm
by 4days
aye - in the meantime i'd settle for cab drivers with reasonable standards of personal hygiene and an understanding that silence can be a good thing.
sort of unrelated:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17663228
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:17 pm
by Tsakali
alot of changes will take place... I'm guessing the repair business will start to drop as more and more people buy automated cars, etc. States for one, will lose alot of the traffic violations related income, which is a big deal since they actually have to fill a quota. Car insurances which is a big business here will surely have to dramatically decrease their rates ( hence their income) do to much lower risk of incidents.
Did that moron mention this? he prolly didn't but sure sounds like the kind of shit a republican would be concerned about.
ps
cars won't be going 250mph, since current speed limits originally had gas efficiency in mind than anything else. It may be possible that rethinking gear ratios of future cars might circumvent this issue, for at least higher speeds if not 250.
pps
that kid was administering cpr while the bus was still moving, lol?
Re: autonomous car next revolution?...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:41 pm
by Tsakali
once these automatons prove themselves, I'm pretty sure manual driving will become illegal within cities and populated roads. Which might actually open the road to more amateur driving tracks popping up in more places, just for the dying breed of the few car enthusiasts that will surely die out within 3-4 generations.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:44 pm
by losCHUNK
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:49 pm
by Tsakali
which reminds me of some tree huger's idea of simple commuting vehicles, that can be be used and left at your destination, for someone else to use. You'd just summon one and be automatically charged for it's usage.
No more pizza boy tips!
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:20 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Tsakali wrote:which reminds me of some tree huger's idea of simple commuting vehicles, that can be be used and left at your destination, for someone else to use. You'd just summon one and be automatically charged for it's usage.
No more pizza boy tips!
They already have them with public bicycles that you can rent...just drop it off in a bike rack at your destination.
Doing it with cars shouldn't be too alien to most people, but the space requirements for housing all those public cars will be a problem....unless you're Mitt Romney and can just have the elevator bring your car down.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:21 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
scared? wrote:he also wrote a book about how fascism is a liberal phenomena...
This, and the fact that Steven Colbert and Jon Stewart each spent 30 minutes explaining this to Goldberg's face on national television (and he still didn't get it ) is all you need to know about the author: he's not interested in facts, but starting fires. The man is a grade-A moron.
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Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:37 pm
by Tsakali
GONNAFISTYA wrote:Tsakali wrote:which reminds me of some tree huger's idea of simple commuting vehicles, that can be be used and left at your destination, for someone else to use. You'd just summon one and be automatically charged for it's usage.
No more pizza boy tips!
They already have them with public bicycles that you can rent...just drop it off in a bike rack at your destination.
Doing it with cars shouldn't be too alien to most people, but the space requirements for housing all those public cars will be a problem....unless you're Mitt Romney and can just have the elevator bring your car down.
his idea was for smart car-sized vehicles , plus with them now being automated, i guess they would automatically fuck off at a central cue location, or a free parking spot near by
might not work for euro cities, but most US cities should be ok... and the fact that this should effectively lower the number of cars within a given area, it should work itself out nicely.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:50 am
by Eraser
Κracus wrote:I think he's got a point, I go offroad all the time for fun, can't really do that in a robot car with no steering wheel...
Then you buy a car specifically for that purpose.
You know, it's the same argument when someone would say it's preposterous he can't use racing slicks on public road because he's taking his car to the track all the time for fun.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:13 am
by MKJ
GONNAFISTYA wrote:Tsakali wrote:which reminds me of some tree huger's idea of simple commuting vehicles, that can be be used and left at your destination, for someone else to use. You'd just summon one and be automatically charged for it's usage.
No more pizza boy tips!
They already have them with public bicycles that you can rent...just drop it off in a bike rack at your destination.
Doing it with cars shouldn't be too alien to most people, but the space requirements for housing all those public cars will be a problem....unless you're Mitt Romney and can just have the elevator bring your car down.
we have that here in dutcheeland actually, GreenWheels as its called.
theres bright red Peugeot's parked throughout the city. you get a key and pay a monthly fee and you can take one whenever and whereever. gotta park them back into one of the designated areas afterwards.
theyre now doing the same with electric cars too. 'CarGo' or something along those lines. can only park them at recharging spots tho.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:34 am
by Eraser
Yeah there's a few services like that here in the Netherlands, but only available in the larger cityy's, I mean city's.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:35 am
by MKJ
you mean cities.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:48 am
by Eraser
No I mean city's.
Ok, I admit, yes you are right. I was so caught up in that cityy joke that I accidentally completely fucked it up.