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Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:21 pm
by scared?
U mad conservabros?...
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:36 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
seremtan is furious
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 2:43 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
You mean I can't get health care in Canada anymore? Shit...now I feel like an American.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:53 pm
by seremtan
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:seremtan is furious
livid
as someone who enjoys the best (public) healthcare system in the world, the news that the right to a limited 2nd tier public healthcare option has been upheld by the supreme court of a country i don't live in makes me so mad
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:00 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
see
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:03 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
seremtan wrote:
as someone who enjoys the best (public) healthcare system in the world
top 20 anyway...

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:04 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
I'm sure xer0s and his Republican friends are hugging their copies of Atlas Shrugged, lamenting the rise of altruism in society and finding a way to blame it on Obama....or the fuckin jews.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:44 pm
by seremtan
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:seremtan wrote:
as someone who enjoys the best (public) healthcare system in the world
top 20 anyway...

best is in the top 20. in fact, it's at the top

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:47 pm
by Ryoki
Where are you getting that from then? A quick google search disagrees...
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:52 pm
by seremtan
GONNAFISTYA wrote:I'm sure xer0s and his Republican friends are hugging their copies of Atlas Shrugged, lamenting the rise of altruism in society and finding a way to blame it on Obama....or the fuckin jews.
are you sure he isn't loading up his pickup truck (the one with the 'don't tread on me' bumper sticker) with guns, beer and corn dogs before heading out to NASCAR and/or a lynching? or accepting Jesus Christ as his lord and saviour before protesting against fag-enablers and setting a homeless person on fire?
the possibilities are endless
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:00 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Where are your manners? Setting a homeless person on fire is a Sunday-only thing.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:36 am
by Nightshade
Heard about this yesterday when I took a client out to dinner. I was surprised to hear that it was upheld, but more surprised to find out that my client (guy I've worked with for about a year now) is a rampaging right-wing nutjob. I was doing my best to remain neutral, given that he's a client and I like money, and I almost had a fucking seizure when he said "Obama is the worst president we've ever had" and "I watch FOX News, and I just scan CNN and MSNBC to see if what FOX is saying is correct, it almost always is."
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!
I don't think that the law being upheld is going to change much for me, I'm just happy that the Tea Party and right-wing fucktards are all up in arms about it. Apparently one congressfaggot likened it to 9/11. Yes, because upholding a law that's meant to provide healthcare for every American is EXACTLY like 19 terrorists flying loaded airliners into buildings. EXACTLY.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:58 am
by Eraser
I wonder, do all the nay-sayers have a well thought through alternative plan? Because saying "no" is so easy. It's saying "this is what we should do" that's the hard part. And right now, to me it seems like Obama is the only one that's making an attempt at actually changing things.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:04 am
by Nightshade
From what I've seen, the party that's not in the White House just bitches about how much the other party sucks and that everything is their fault. No, you never hear of a better alternative (for the most part), just complaints and vague explanations (or completely manufactured bullshit like DEATH PANELS) regarding the depths of the other party's failures.
Politics in the US is a fucking joke. I heard Mitch McConnell on the radio the other day, quote from a remark he made in 2010 about how the Republicans' job for the next two years was to deny Obama a second term. Yeah, fuck that whole "representing and acting in the best interests of the American people" bullshit, just make sure you stay in Washington and get your muppet in the Oval Office. Useless assholes.
And of course all the Democratic dipshit pillow-biters are having an ecstatic self-congratulatory suckfest now. More useless assholes.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:55 am
by Ryoki
There's an extended interview with a right wing governor or somesuch on The Daily Show site (from last monday i believe) that i found pretty symbolic for the way republicans engage democrats in 'debate'.
It's a good watch because the guy is clearly quite clever, well spoken and charming, but he just lives in an alternate reality where just about every fact he's confronted with he can disagree with, based on absolutely nothing other than ideological differences. If a democrat would tell him the sky is blue, he'd deny it because a communist can't be correct. The whole interview Jon tries very patiently to get him to debate a couple of points and he just hits a brick wall every single time.
What i found especially remarkable is that at a certain point the dude says that in order to build something better, sometimes it's nessecary to destroy the old status quo. Which is indeed what the repubs have been doing since Obama won the elections; not offering alternatives, refusing cooperation on just about anything, but aiming for destruction. A tactic so incredibly cynic that it beggars belief.
Blah, blah, anyway, watch it.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:13 pm
by Captain
You analyze the entire interview yet fail to produce a name or even link. You Dutchies are strange creatures.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:22 pm
by Ryoki
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episod ... arco-rubio
Marco Rubio
There you go

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:43 pm
by scared?
Lol Rubio....self hating spic...
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:35 pm
by bitWISE
Eraser wrote:I wonder, do all the nay-sayers have a well thought through alternative plan? Because saying "no" is so easy. It's saying "this is what we should do" that's the hard part. And right now, to me it seems like Obama is the only one that's making an attempt at actually changing things.
They mostly just have a complete lack of empathy. Like my roommate. Until something actually applies to them or their family/friends, those other people are just lazy, freeloading, losers who need to go get a job. Oh and federal taxes are "unconstitutional".
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:08 pm
by TruthfulLiar
this nation was unconstitutional many times over. we may not get things right for a very long time but we do get there eventually. most people will forget in 4-8 years time anyway...
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:23 pm
by Tsakali
bitWISE wrote:Eraser wrote:I wonder, do all the nay-sayers have a well thought through alternative plan? Because saying "no" is so easy. It's saying "this is what we should do" that's the hard part. And right now, to me it seems like Obama is the only one that's making an attempt at actually changing things.
Until something actually applies to them or their family/friends, those other people are just lazy, freeloading, losers who need to go get a job.
Classic behavior of a pack animal. Side with the house no matter the reason and consequences. And pretty much all the time the house is where religion is because that is what ties them together as a pack. No matter how illogical a viewpoint, they wouldn't dare go against their pack their community, (and since most communities form around a religious belief) their religion. It really is all about that connection with religion and the way it limits them. If you talk to one of them long enough they will soon throw a biblical reference that pretty much outlines what their stance on a subject should be and indeed is.
I think it is this evolutionary trait of blind commitment to the pack that has no doubt served us well 100,000 years ago, and unfortunately is just as important now as it ever was. Their emotional / psychological attachment of what defines their community (religion) trumps everything else, every time...and it IS a winning combination. That's why secularism will never stand a chance against a system that is wired to always bet on the house...their house.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 5:39 pm
by scared?
well bible thumpers can't stop evolution...if humans survive, one day we will all be atheists...its already happening and can't be stopped...
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:19 am
by Captain
Americans don't believe in evolution because it hasn't happened to them yet.
Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:50 pm
by Plan B
lol Obama, and his anti Darwinian policies.
So insignificant, but glad to see some rationality and sanity in the American legislative system.
Doesn´t really matter, though.
Change...
Soon...
Entire different ball game...
you with me Geoff

Don´t they look silly, without their aluminium headgear

Re: Health care is upheld by supreme court...
Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:31 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
The thing that makes me laugh the hardest in all this is the morons who are pissed off about the ruling stating that they're "moving to Canada"...to avoid universal healthcare? That's like diving into the ocean to avoid getting wet.