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Re: Capitalism
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:03 am
by Don Carlos
tl;dr
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:31 am
by DTS
W.d.; shame he offered no solution, though. I mean, yeah, he says vote for someone else, but people don't.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:05 pm
by seremtan
DTS wrote:he offered no solution
behold, his majesty the king of lame debate team responses. this is how failures try to put the onus back on people who call them out on their failure
pretty decent read btw. some kind of source/link would be helpful
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 8:06 pm
by seremtan
those dirty british bosses, giving away our jobs to those dirty foreigners, staying over there and taking our jobs
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:45 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
DEY TOOK DER DERBS!!
The guy does a good rant but the people that need to read it won't.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:20 am
by fKd
what a load of wank... bla bla bla. fuck off and die already...

Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:26 am
by Eraser
While the point he's trying to make is valid, it could've been made clear in a single sentence. The rest is just padding which makes the whole thing read like a pointless rant.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:32 am
by seremtan
YEAH MAN WE GOT SLAVOJ ZIZEK WE DON'T NEED YOU

Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:41 am
by Don Carlos
I just made the effort to read all of this and some of it is right but most of it is shit. Not getting that time back :/
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 9:57 am
by 0psys
Not great. Opening paragraph is decent, but it just devolves into a pretty stupid rant. It reminded me of the kind of writing you see from early-20's middle class students who think they speak for the working classes, or something you'd expect to find in the comments section of the Telegraph or Guardian website.
Edit: Searched for the passage on the internet, and it indeed originated in the comments section of the Guardian website.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:12 am
by DTS
Wow, aren't you clever with your scientifically proven prejudices. ^
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:17 am
by Mat Linnett
Looks like you just offended an early-20s middle class student sys0p.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:55 am
by Don Carlos
For shame :/
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:35 pm
by feedback
capitalism is the worst system except for all the others.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 12:37 pm
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
http://www.thestar.com/business/article ... rest-of-us
Psychopathy and the CEO: Top executives have four times the incidence of psychopathy as the rest of us
but we already knew that didn't we...
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:00 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1222162--psychopathy-and-the-ceo-top-executives-have-four-times-the-incidence-of-psychopathy-as-the-rest-of-us
Psychopathy and the CEO: Top executives have four times the incidence of psychopathy as the rest of us
but we already knew that didn't we...
I'm actually doing research on psychopaths (which is why I've been making the references so often lately...lol) and how much damage they do. Your article states four times more likely, but most indicators show that you are actually seven times more likely to find psychopaths in top level business and government positions then you would find in the general population.
So if you squint...to some extent...the world is literally run by nutters.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:17 pm
by DTS
Maybe they're just stressed out cause they work so hard?

Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:03 pm
by Eraser
GONNAFISTYA wrote:So if you squint...to some extent...the world is literally run by nutters.
Which doesn't surprise me, and I don't mean that in a cynical "the world has gone to shit" way. I think that to do extraordinary things you need to be somewhat out of the ordinary. If you're an average person, you'll be doing average things.
Those few people that rise above the rest and become highly successful probably got there because they have an out-of-the-ordinary level of dedication or devotion to what they're doing, or they have a different way of looking at things which lets them think in different ways than the average person who takes everything that's presented to him for granted.
Genius and success doesn't come from doing exactly what's expected of you.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:43 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Eraser wrote:Those few people that rise above the rest and become highly successful probably got there because they have an out-of-the-ordinary level of dedication or devotion to what they're doing, or they have a different way of looking at things which lets them think in different ways than the average person who takes everything that's presented to him for granted.
I'm guessing they got where they are precisely because they don't feel empathy: to get ahead they will step on others not just from necessity but with glee...they take real satisfaction in manipulating others and plot & scheme as a matter of course.
Eraser wrote:Genius and success doesn't come from doing exactly what's expected of you.
A very large percentage of successful people in the entertainment industry suffer from mental illness. With comedians it's mostly depression.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:47 pm
by xer0s
Without mental illness, would we have the artistic culture that we have today?
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:48 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
xer0s wrote:Without mental illness, would we have the artistic culture that we have today?
Probably not.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 4:53 pm
by xer0s
Illness reclassification...
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 5:28 pm
by losCHUNK
feedback wrote:capitalism is the worst system except for all the others.
lol

Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:00 pm
by DTS
We don't have an artistic culture...
In short, you could say we have a capitalist culture. Art is usually the last consideration in any modern-day endeavour.
Re: Capitalism
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 7:23 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
DTS wrote:We don't have an artistic culture...
In short, you could say we have a capitalist culture. Art is usually the last consideration in any modern-day endeavour.
Maybe as it relates to purely financial endeavors, but ever since Louis Sullivan, art is a major part of everything we make/create, not just in architecture but in all industrial design.
Stop being so dismissive.