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Tabs are a moronic concept unless they are used correctly, which, I reckon, is not usually.

Tabs or windows use the same amount of memory to run, in theory, yes?

in theory, no. tabs share their resources while windows dont.

wouldn't it technically be the same amount of resources to load a tab as a window - what matters, being the content on said webpages?

i'm asking all this because that nasa video made the fan turn on.

on the other hand, if you stack windows from the same programme on the taskbar (win7), tabs are easier to navigate

no

I enjoy these threads...

TruthfulLiar wrote:wouldn't it technically be the same amount of resources to load a tab as a window

no, theres a lot of overhead in running in a window like menus, event listeners, size, position, et al. with tab-view, this is initialized only once no matter the amount of tabs.

however, that could mean that if your system can handle it, the performance of each website could be better on separate windows, since they don't have to share resources, event handlers, etc.
Am I doing it right?

MKJ wrote:

TruthfulLiar wrote:wouldn't it technically be the same amount of resources to load a tab as a window

no, theres a lot of overhead in running in a window like menus, event listeners, size, position, et al. with tab-view, this is initialized only once no matter the amount of tabs.

Unless you've tested this you can't know for sure. I know most browsers load tabs as individual processes. I've never taken the time to measure the ammount of memory they consume open in tabs as opposed to a window but I wouldn't be surprised they're the same ammount.

actually I'm going to test this right now.

edit: test results.

iexplore automatically launches 2 iexplore processes even though only 1 page is visible.
When you open a 3rd tab another iexplore.exe process is launched.

1. 17,532 kb
2. 22,964 kb

3. 23,168 kb

#3 is a tab and the first 2 are just how IE runs I guess.

When I launch the 3rd tab as it's own window the memory usage is about the same but did have the highest result by a slight bit at 24,608 kb.

So you could be right, HOWEVER, I would argue that the memory used for the tab function probably adds to both scenarios skewing my results of the seperate windows which would probably be lower anyway overall.

The new commercial for ie isn't going to sell me on it

TruthfulLiar wrote:Tabs are a moronic concept unless they are used correctly, which, I reckon, is not usually.

Tabs or windows use the same amount of memory to run, in theory, yes?

If you use Chrome you can force it to use a single-process (bad idea as if one tab goes down you lose all your tabs) or force it to use one process per site (e.g. all Q3W tabs use a single process). Process-per-site made a huge difference on an old machine for me.

Howto: http://www.webnol.net/2011/02/how-to-ch ... processes/

oh, and shift+esc in Chrome brings up an internal task manager where you can see cpu/memory use, etc of tabs.

PhoeniX wrote:
...shift+esc in Chrome brings up an internal task manager where you can...

There's a lot of wannabe nerd fail in this thread.

lol chrome is shit